944t cab or 968 Cab
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Copperman05
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Should be pretty accurate AFAIK, they use the same info as the DVLA/police PNC but dont display any personal details, just details about the car being stolen, a write of, or hire purchase, etc...
Edd
sawood12
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Lovely car. Nice colour and cup 1's too. You can't got wrong with a 944 of any flavour.
My view is that the best cab Porsche have ever made at any price less than a CGT is a Boxster! You get the fruity sound, sublime handling and a chassis that feels as stiff as a roofed car. Everytime I drive one I am more and more impressed, even with the non-S car.
My view is that the best cab Porsche have ever made at any price less than a CGT is a Boxster! You get the fruity sound, sublime handling and a chassis that feels as stiff as a roofed car. Everytime I drive one I am more and more impressed, even with the non-S car.
It comes up on text the reg as being stolen in 1993 and not recovered, just HPI'd it now and it comes up as clear.
The text people can do an investigation for the owner at £20.
The current owner is a headmaster who I can find multiple references to through google including photos. He has also change the plate during his time with the car to his private plate and back to the original - but I dont suppose this would flag it as stolen - getting insurance might though. I am thinking it is probably Ok but need to do some more digging before handing over the cash.
The other small concern I have though is the chassis number under the bonnet is not in the usual style - bare metal with a consistent stamp - it looks hand stamped into the paint, the panel doesnt have a bare metal section like other 944s I have seen.
The bulkhead panel is complete, so if you were going to go to the effort of welding in a new bulkhead with the intention of changing the chassis number I would have thought some effort to make the chassis number look factory. It is a very late shell, was sold in 91 so until this I had accepted it as orginal but unusual did they swap factories with production of 944 going over to 968? - worried again now!
Tony
The text people can do an investigation for the owner at £20.
The current owner is a headmaster who I can find multiple references to through google including photos. He has also change the plate during his time with the car to his private plate and back to the original - but I dont suppose this would flag it as stolen - getting insurance might though. I am thinking it is probably Ok but need to do some more digging before handing over the cash.
The other small concern I have though is the chassis number under the bonnet is not in the usual style - bare metal with a consistent stamp - it looks hand stamped into the paint, the panel doesnt have a bare metal section like other 944s I have seen.
The bulkhead panel is complete, so if you were going to go to the effort of welding in a new bulkhead with the intention of changing the chassis number I would have thought some effort to make the chassis number look factory. It is a very late shell, was sold in 91 so until this I had accepted it as orginal but unusual did they swap factories with production of 944 going over to 968? - worried again now!
Tony
Copperman05
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Sounds suspicious to me, but then it would... There's always a chance its a ringer.. But I'm no expert in that field. Def dont buy until your absolutly sure what your purchasing.
Edd
Edd
TTM
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In order to prepare the coming of the 968, production was moved from Neckarsulm to Stuttgart which is were the latest S2s were built. These feature ZMS in the VIN, S standing for Stuttgart instead of N for Neckarsulm.
As far as I know all turbo cabs were built in Neckarsulm though so will be ZMN.
Not sure I understand exactly what you mean about the stamping of the VIN, but the only car I have seen that had the VIN stamped directly into the shell, without the usual piece of "metallic grey tape" stuck on the shell, had had the whole front section replaced after a front collision.
I would have this cab thoroughly inspected on ramps with wheel wells and undercovers removed.
As far as I know all turbo cabs were built in Neckarsulm though so will be ZMN.
Not sure I understand exactly what you mean about the stamping of the VIN, but the only car I have seen that had the VIN stamped directly into the shell, without the usual piece of "metallic grey tape" stuck on the shell, had had the whole front section replaced after a front collision.
I would have this cab thoroughly inspected on ramps with wheel wells and undercovers removed.
Neil Haughey
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ISTR the last cars where built in Stuttgart, the middle of the VIN gives the factory. How did they build the cabs though? I thought all the cabs where some sort of conversion done for Porsche by American Cab company or Baur or somebody?
ITS ZMN
I always assumed it was bare galv metal rather than a sticker where the chassis number normally sits. I checked a 200ish earlier shell and it was stamped as per normal.
If this one was repaired then it was done very well with factory style seam sealant panels and welds or a re-shell? However that extensive a repair should be recorded and I guess a reshell would have a new chassis number.
I am happier with the data checks now, just need DVLA to reopen on Monday to confirm a fact. The text the reg check checks against registration chassis numbers and similar chassis numbers so they dont miss typo's.
The car that was stolen had the same reg but different chassis number 22Z (a typo) instead of ZZZ and the chassis number is also 10cars earlier so was flagged as another potential typo.
They do not have a record of an earlier plate than the current one however HPI do so when the DVLA is open Monday they can check. If they agree with HPI about the initial plate and the change to this one in 1994 then all is good.
HPI do have a record of a different plate on this car until 1994, when it moved to its current plate which is off the one stolen in 1993 with similar chassis number.
I think the rarity has found a flaw in the text the reg system.
phew, happier now!
Tony
I always assumed it was bare galv metal rather than a sticker where the chassis number normally sits. I checked a 200ish earlier shell and it was stamped as per normal.
If this one was repaired then it was done very well with factory style seam sealant panels and welds or a re-shell? However that extensive a repair should be recorded and I guess a reshell would have a new chassis number.
I am happier with the data checks now, just need DVLA to reopen on Monday to confirm a fact. The text the reg check checks against registration chassis numbers and similar chassis numbers so they dont miss typo's.
The car that was stolen had the same reg but different chassis number 22Z (a typo) instead of ZZZ and the chassis number is also 10cars earlier so was flagged as another potential typo.
They do not have a record of an earlier plate than the current one however HPI do so when the DVLA is open Monday they can check. If they agree with HPI about the initial plate and the change to this one in 1994 then all is good.
HPI do have a record of a different plate on this car until 1994, when it moved to its current plate which is off the one stolen in 1993 with similar chassis number.
I think the rarity has found a flaw in the text the reg system.
phew, happier now!
Tony
sawood12
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ON the chassis number thing it might be worth asking a 968 owner to see if they have the number stamped onto a painted area or bare metal one if you suspect it was to do with changeover to 968. Also has it still got the paper sticker stuck the the rear panel in the boot? If not why not, and of course the chassis number should match and the list of option codes when new should be on there and match the car.
pauljmcnulty
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Not necessarily. As my friend found with his re-shelled GT3RS, it's possible for Porsche to supply a new shell, the car to be repaired, and then resold by a main dealer, with all records disappearing. [&o]
I'd be inclined to think it's a mistake on the database, far more likely than anything more sinister. I know from the Register database, and the mistakes we've seen on the new Certificates of Authenticity, that errors are almost par for the course.
'Tis a gorgeous colour, can't wait to see it in cab form! [8D]
pauljmcnulty
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I'm always a bit careful here. Sure, it could mean something suspicious. More likely, though, that there's been damp in there over the years and it's peeled off.
ronald smith
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Hi Tony, It looks great hope it checks out - enjoy.
Cheers
Ron
Cheers
Ron
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Have you got it yet, have you, have you, have you? []
No was waiting for some further investigation from HPI to make sure - they called me today all good news, should be picking it up tomorrow afternoon. Will try and drop by if you are not too busy.
Boot sticker matches (plus all options correct), engine number matches, lots of googling revealed some 968's have a bare chassis number a la 944 some have painted panel and some have a plastic cover over the area so I dont know. The seam sealant on the firewall is more 968 like than 944 like.
Its not immaculate but with a little minor work could be very nice indeed - It has been thoroughly treated with cavity wax in the past and has very clean cills.
Current owner has had it 9 years.
Prepare for the end of summer tomorrow!
Tony
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