Anyone know this 944T Race Car?

[Andy97]

http://www.racecarsdirect.com/listing/31010/Porsche_944_Turbo.html

Anyone got any knowledge/ views on this? What do you guys think of the price?

Thanks

 

[sawood12]

For 5995 assuming it is in fine running fettle it sounds like a good price to me - certainly a damn sight cheaper than buying a base car and doing all that work yourself, especially it implies it has had a relatively recent engine rebuild. I see they've re-positioned the AFM and are using the promax L2 kit but rather dangerously imply you can freely adjust boost level, which you can't with the promax L2. And the claim of 300 - 400bhp is a little optimistic, more like 280 to 300, maybe a smidge over 300bhp if you're lucky and on the right dyno.

 

[barks944]

I was wondering about that too scott! He doesn't actually say its a stage 2 engine, he says a stage 2 ECU. Who knows what the engine/turbo is on that car. It's had some work to its bottom end too. Perhaps the car has different maps for different boost pressure that you can change too using the fuel quality switch.

 

[chrisg]

As they always say, buyer beware...

However, for 6k that's a lot car and kit, just the shell and welded in cage must be worth ~ £1k, you just have to be careful regarding the engine mapping and boost.

I'd be interested to know which series this ran in ? It looks from the stickers like the Porsche Open cup, which would explain the variable/adjustable boost and repositioned AFM. IIRMC the Porsche standard series doesn't allow modifications above the stated 250bhp ?

Tell you what though, if I had a spare 6k I'd certainly go and have a look at it !

 

[edh]

If I was in the market for a 944 race car I'd certainly have a look. Always cheaper to buy one already built

I think it's been up for sale for a while - maybe not many buyers for this type of car? It would run alongsinde MarkK's though

 

[MarkK]

The cage does not look like a welded SD to me,needs tidying up and if it needs some money spending on the engine if they have been messing around with the boost without knowing what they are doing it could end up not being such a bargain...

 

[DivineE]

Fantastic package for the money but without getting into a debate about good and bad engine builders again I would check very carefully the condition of any engine that's only done 2000miles since a re-build and is being sold. Would be interesting to know exactly what was changed. If it has just had stronger rods installed and a new head gasket then that's a big positive but if its had more serious machining work done I'd be careful before its had 10,000miles or so to allow any problems to come to light.

 

[pauljmcnulty]

especially it implies it has had a relatively recent engine rebuild.

On the basis that I know nothing...[&o]

Wouldn't 2000 miles after an engine rebuild actually be quite a lot on a race car? That's a lot of flat-out laps. [8|]

 

[ukmastiff]

If the interior had been kept in I'd like it just as a fun car for shows and days out etc []
turn the boost down to a sensible level and potter round in it (ish) , I like it !

Mas

 

[Neil Haughey]

On the basis that the drivers floor looks a mess it doesn't bode well. I can recall the last time a "cheap" race car turned up on here, remember it the ebay one black and white was up at 2 or 3K and everyone was saying what a bargain it was? It ended up at EMC, Kev tells me the only things they managed to salvage from that car was the body shell and dash. I believe the shell was used to make the Green Meanie being raced by Ben Eacock this year in Future Classics.

Having said all that it might need a little work to be a nice car. I would phone up Kev and ask if he knows the car and one of his cuttingly honest appraisals []

 

[DivineE]

ORIGINAL: ukmastiff

If the interior had been kept in I'd like it just as a fun car for shows and days out etc []
turn the boost down to a sensible level and potter round in it (ish) , I like it !

Mas

I love the whole function over form look of racers, scruffy, beaten up and oily but everything that's been done is functional, solid and usually well maintained. The ugly silicone hosing everywhere in the engine bay is the perfect example of what I'm talking about. It's not pretty but there's nothing better for containing all that boost if you're going to cain the backside off a car.[]

The beaten up old 200sx drift cars you often see at Silverstone the epitomy of this kind of cool. Pure toned muscle under a farm workers jumper. I love that understatement as much as I love a tidy well polished classic that hides modern components and a well tweaked engine.

 

[Neil Haughey]

Looking again at the pictures looks to me like a road car converted to a race car rather than a purpose built race car, as in the body shell looks original with a cage added. The mess on the floor looks like it could be glue residue.

 

[Neil Haughey]

ORIGINAL: MarkK
The cage does not look like a welded SD to me.

The front feet look welded in and I can't see any bolts, its missing a door bar up to the dash on each side. It is a bit odd though to see one painted separately from the rest of the car.

 

[Neil Haughey]

ORIGINAL: DivineE


The beaten up old 200sx drift cars you often see at Silverstone the epitomy of this kind of cool. Pure toned muscle under a farm workers jumper. I love that understatement as much as I love a tidy well polished classic that hides modern components and a well tweaked engine.

...or it could just be they look like sheds because the owners/builders don't know how to build a car properly []. Come along to a PCGB Championship race and you will see what I mean, many of the cars look as neatly built as a factory racer and the good outfits take a lot of pride in turning out properly professional looking cars.

 

[lali]

that car has spent a LOT of time with EMC....

....but I still wouldn't.

 

[edh]

ooh you're such a tease....[]

 

[Flatty]

I bought my 944 race car about 15 months ago for under 6k and I looked at quite a few 924/944 cars before I took the plunge. It is very true that if a race car looks a bit scruffy then it normally is.

Kev at EMC will tell you what he knows of the car if you ask him nicely but you pays your money and take the chance or just put the money in the bank if you want guaranteed safety.

The way these cars are used will mean that there will always be work to be done/money to be spent but as said before on here try and build one yourself for that money.

My car is a road car modified for racing, nothing wrong with that, anyway trying to find a non sunroof shell for a 944 is probably very expensive. Race cars built from scratch would demand more money and are very rare.

I have had my moneys worth of fun with the 944 and it's still going strong.

 

[Flatty]

ORIGINAL: pauljmcnulty

especially it implies it has had a relatively recent engine rebuild.

On the basis that I know nothing...[&o]

Wouldn't 2000 miles after an engine rebuild actually be quite a lot on a race car? That's a lot of flat-out laps. [8|]

Your right and 2000 miles Flat Stick could be a lot of hard work for a normal engine, but if it has been built well it should do that no probs.

 

[lali]

ORIGINAL: edh

ooh you're such a tease....[]

I think that car has had too many cooks.... if you know what i mean,

it has EVERYTHING that you'd want on a '44 turbo track car wish list.... it's just not been put together in a "project" fashion....

It really needs everything taking out and putting back together again

 

[rickware]

i think it looks like a bargain on the face of it so go and view, someone spending the time to build this and actually race it knows something about 944ts!