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Anyone got a 924/ 944/ 968 full cage sat in their garage that is surplus to requirements? Preferably bolt in. Looking in all the usual places, any help appreciated.

Cheers
 
Would that be for road or race d5hef? If road, I'd check with your insurers first and then decide if you want one after that. [:mad:]

If you still want one, Safety Devices or Lodge perhaps.

Demon Tweeks list a bolt in 8 point Sparco cage for £509.66 (+VAT), manufactured in E255 steel and weighing 32kgs.
 
Its for a 944 trackday/ race car project so insurance wont be a problem. I've seen the safety devices and sparco cages but dont want to pay their prices.

Cheers
 
ORIGINAL: d5hef

......... I've seen the safety devices and sparco cages but dont want to pay their prices......

It's difficult to put a price on safety. I thought the Sparco cage was pretty cheap.

Bolt in cages are sometimes a bit of a misnomer as you end up having to weld in the mountings to bot the cage to. I guess you can then remove the cage for future cars or to return a car to road trim.

While I've never had a cage tested, it is within the rights of the scrutineers so to do. That being the case a cheap rough looking cage could put you in bother even before you crash the car.

If it is a proper cage to do a proper job pay a proper price. If it is just for show, you could stick a lot of loo rolls together and paint them black. [;)][;)][;)][;)]
 
My insurer's don't care. It's a safety device so they are all for it was the feeling I got.

I've been keeping my eyes open for one but nothing about. I'm slightly uneasy about second hand safety gear also, and what I will probably end uo with is a custom weld-in which will also stiffen the shell. I've been quoted £1,200 for that.
 
I can get a custom made weld in cage sorted for £550 from the chap I use for work on my race car. I accept all points made about safety, and I'll bear the loo roll comment in mind, maybe kitchen rolls would be better as they are made from a better quality cardboard?

All I am doing is putting the feelers out to the 924/44/68 community to see if anyone has an unwanted cage?

Cheers
 
Absolutely I don't blame you for putting the feelers out.

Who's the weld-in for £550 source, if you can share? At that sort of price I could do it sooner, albeit my quotes were to include harness bars, X- door bars and a removable X-diagonal in the back (so I can carry a set of wheels in there) which all push up a basic weld-in price.
 
What do you know it seems rolls cages are like busses, nothing and then suddenly I have 2! The one going spare is in the for sale section of the forum, its a safety devices half cage with brackets to turn into a full cage.

Re the weld in cage you mentioned Fen drop me a mail with the specs you want I I will get my uys to give you a quote.

Cheers
 
Roll Centre. Economically priced, although not as good as a Safety Devices part. At this sort of price a used one would be false economy, I think. Speaking of which, Ive seen one sell on eBay (from Buttercup), for virtually the new cost...
 
EMC in B'ham are an authorised Safety Devices agent and they know their front4's well.

http://www.emcmotorsport.co.uk/parts-shop/
 
They should be the only supplier in the UK. The SD cage is a good deal better, but its a damned sight dearer. That said; Kev isnt enthusiastic about any bolt in cage.
 
ORIGINAL: 944 man

They should be the only supplier in the UK. The SD cage is a good deal better, but its a damned sight dearer. That said; Kev isnt enthusiastic about any bolt in cage.

Thats true. Kev refused to fit a bolt in cage in to mine, but also didn't want to weld one in as mines a street car first and didn't want to ruin it. Suggested Roll Centre as the place to go for a bolt in.

Finalising a buy here
 
Chris - why are you thinking about a cage? you're a has-been racer, not a wannabe racer [;)]

- Or are you planning a full-on, stripped out track special now all the oily bits are working?

I know this is a well worn debate, but is a cage in a road/occasional track car with 3 point belts & standard seats a good idea? If you do go for it, I'd definitely recommend the 2 part padding you saw in my Honda.
 
Ed

having been reminded of the joys but also potential pit falls of the Ring, I've decided to do two things:

1. Get the wheels and tyres sorted out so I'm running matching tyres and wheels all around on the Porsche and have appropriate spares without having to lug sets of wheels around Northern Europs

2. Improve the saftey of the car, a. Install a cage (min. rear half, possible full cage) with padding b. Race seats and harnesses. In this order, I will not be fitting 3/4/5 point harnesses until the seats are swopped

Yours

Chris
 
245's on 9" all round?

There's been debate on here about the limited value of a half cage in a 944 - with the suggestion that the most likely damage in a rollover is to the a-pillars. I can't say I felt any safer in my caged/harnessed Honda this year compared to the standard 944 last year. Maybe that has more to do with one being a solid German machine & the other a flimsy tin box [:D]
 
Ed,

Ref. the wheels tyres at present my track day tyres are 205/55's on 7" and 225/50 on 8". I have the CS wheels that came with the car 7.5" and 9" but not keen on using them due to failure issues.

Where possible I'd like to go 225/50's all around but not sure/ not convinced they'll fit on 7" front rims - D90's in 8" are very rare and very expensive ! My experience of handling is that the car is better balanced on 225's all round, but the front Goodyears kept going off half way through a lap at the ring.

Do you know if 7" rear wheels will fit on the front of a 944 turbo ?
 
I'd have thought you could pick up a set of S2 wheels (7 and 8) quite cheaply. I reckon £100-150 per set if you don't mind them being a bit tatty. Keep the 8's & sell the 4 x 7's to a 924/924S or 944 2.5 driver. AFAIK all the 7" D90 wheels were 52.3 offset

Your clubsport wheels would sell for good money as well. I don't think failure is a big issue (I was there when Kurt's went) if the wheels are original & have not been refurbed. Did you see the pics on here recently of the ones where the front faces had been worn flat? [:-]

I was very happy with 225/50 all round with p zero C's - the balance was very nice and I had loads of grip. You may get more traction issues with a road tyre like the T1-R
Maybe the V70a is a good option - Craig had those on his 328. Depends on how much wet weather use you are planning...
 
I'd have thought you could pick up a set of S2 wheels (7 and 8) quite cheaply. I reckon £100-150 per set if you don't mind them being a bit tatty. Keep the 8's & sell the 4 x 7's to a 924/924S or 944 2.5 driver. AFAIK all the 7" D90 wheels were 52.3 offset

I already have a pair of 8" rear D90's with Yoko S306's on. and a pair of Teledial 7" ET55 ones for the front. I've now got 1 x 7" D90 for the front (actually a 964 part) and about to get another one.

Your clubsport wheels would sell for good money as well. I don't think failure is a big issue (I was there when Kurt's went) if the wheels are original & have not been refurbed. Did you see the pics on here recently of the ones where the front faces had been worn flat? Fair comment, but for somewhere like the ring or spa I don't want to risk it either the car spinning off or not having a wheel to get home on ! I was there when Kurt broke his and ended up lending him one of mine to get home with !.

I have thought about selling mine and just running the car on D90's for Road and track usage.

I was very happy with 225/50 all round with p zero C's - the balance was very nice and I had loads of grip. You may get more traction issues with a road tyre like the T1-R
Maybe the V70a is a good option - Craig had those on his 328. Depends on how much wet weather use you are planning...

Yeah I was looking at those as an option - they're (for my budget) quite pricey at ~ £500 for a set.
 
I have a roll centre cage and it's easily fitted but if you have a sunroof you need to either cut the roof lining or fit some spacers on the hoop as it needs to go further forward than it is was designed to. very cheap though I paid £350 for mine
 
Rick

thanks for letting me know about this, luckily my 951 has no sunroof so the spacing won't be an issue.

The £350 you paid was that for a half cage or a full cage ?

Does yours have the removal diaganol bar ? How much does it intrude into the rear space ?

Yours

C
 

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