SORN fines

[sulzeruk]

Nice letter on the mat when I came down from the garage for my lunch today. Apparently if you don't declare SORN within a certain time, you get a nice £80 fine and also have to pay the duty that should have been paid. How can you pay duty if the vehicle is off the road and is also not in a roadworthy condition. That sounds a bit like fraud to me??? Yet another government bloody tax. I bought the car on the 19th of April and the should have declared SORN by 22nd of April. Please please please let this department be part of the 25% of cuts the government has promised, what a complete waste!
Alasdair

 

[supersport]

I think you can be fined for breathing in the wrong way these days[&:]

 

[zcacogp]

Snag is that there were a lot of people out there who didn't pay their tax and drove around without any problems. Everyone else picked up their bill ...

Of course, the replacement (current) system is flawed in that it is only as reliable as the address the car is registered to. And guess what all those road-tax-evading types do now? Yes, of course - register their car to a non-existent address. Which means that they also avoid paying any speeding fines, congestion charge fines or road tax SORN fines. And it also makes the pesky annual insurance renewal disappear altogether ... []

We're the mugs. Mass civil disobedience with lots of people mis-registering their cars would cause the whole sad shambles to come crashing down in seconds. But of course, we won't do this.


Oli.

P.S. I saw an interesting sticker yesterday. "Don't steal. The government hates competition." In fact, I think I may just put it into my signature here.

 

[jdpef356]

ORIGINAL: supersport

I think you can be fined for breathing in the wrong way these days[&:]

To much Heavy Breathing down the phone to a Government Department can bring a Jail Sentence![]

 

[Mark Elder]

What happens to "barn finds"? (eg like the 914/911 pair that were found in an estate and bought by someone on here - they had not moved for 10 years or more - surely the owner was not remembering to pop down the postoffice for a SORN or two every year if he'd more or less forgotten the cars?)

 

[tref]

I understood "grandfather's rights" applied to vehicles that were off road before SORN was introduced, how-ever, once ownership changed hands, or they were taxed again, they fell back into the SORN system. I stand to be corrected.

 

[FistsOfHam]

ORIGINAL: tref

I understood "grandfather's rights" applied to vehicles that were off road before SORN was introduced, how-ever, once ownership changed hands, or they were taxed again, they fell back into the SORN system. I stand to be corrected.

There was a certain year that if they were SORN before that then they were fine until they changed ownership, then they would revert back to unlicensed status unless the new owner reapplied the SORN status.

I got caught out by this on my 944 but not heard anything from it (yet at least). It was SORN when I got it and didn't get anything requesting tax or that I update the SORN so I thought it continued to be like that until I read a post on PH about it. Applied for SORN status straight after finding out though.

 

[944 man]

Seldom enforced. Id argue that you have returned the form and met your legal obligation. Case law states that you arent obliged to follow up, nor obtain any sort of proof of posting.