Wavetrac LSD
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Copperman05
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Not that I know of, does it fit our cars? I thought the G50 was only for the 968... Edd
Copperman05
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Seems expensive, you could probably buy a s/h turbo LSD box and have it fitted for less than that... Edd
Neil Haughey
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A torque biasing diff that is loads more expensive than Quaiffe. No thanks. I may consider an LSD at some point but it would definitely be a plate type one probably from Guard out in the states, would definitely also have a high decel rating perhaps 80% and maybe only 40% to 50% on accel.
Big Dave
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With a plate diff, you can vary the "ramp angles" / locking facility. But only by taking the diff out + fitting different plates / ramps. Neil. Have you driven a Porsche with a plate diff.??? As i suspect you wont be wanting one that locks up that much on decell. As youl be locking rear wheels when you change down . I have a standard Porsche plate diff in my 968 + its set to standard ramps. Its settings are just right, I think it locks more on accel than decell. You wouldnt want one that locks more on decell or youl be swapping ends under braking/changing down... You could ive been there + got the T shirt. Or should that be the gravel rash....[
][] But once bitten twice shy.... Once youve learnt how to use it, it can help with some trail braking / set up on corner entry....[][][][]
][] But once bitten twice shy.... Once youve learnt how to use it, it can help with some trail braking / set up on corner entry....[][][][]Neil Haughey
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Other way round Dave, Porsche themselves fitted a diff in the 964 turbo with ISTR 80% on decel and 20% on accel. The high decel was to stabilise the car under trailing throttle on corner entry, the low accel was because the car didn't need much more according to Porsche. Stateside its common to fit LSDs with these sorts of parameters on 951 race cars. I believe Patrick uses a 60/80 LSD.
Neil Haughey
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Why does it matter? As it happens our MX-5 has a plate type LSD, drive that car all the time in all conditions you can really feel the diff working. BTW you haven't been there and done anything much, maybe when you have I might take notice of your opinion.
DivineE
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Just buy the Quaiffe for £750 direct with a lifetime guarantee. It's far more advanced than the standard diff and extremely well proven. Why would you mess about with anything else? p.s.
] my TVR used to suffer this due to compression lock if you didn't toe and heel properly, many times did I enter a roundabout with the back kicked out sideways in the wrong direction. Fantastically thrilling and I'm sure very entertaining to watch but not very practical in the wet I can assure you[]
It is exciting though[
] my TVR used to suffer this due to compression lock if you didn't toe and heel properly, many times did I enter a roundabout with the back kicked out sideways in the wrong direction. Fantastically thrilling and I'm sure very entertaining to watch but not very practical in the wet I can assure you[]
Yup! [] Actually it's made Down Under in Melbourne by a company called Modena Engineering. They actually supply Guard US and Ferrari amongst others. It's what they term a Motorsport 60/80 plate type LSD. You can see 2 of them either side at the rear in this picture. There's a 968 one in the middle and 2 TBDs in the front. My car is clearly more track oriented and this is perfect for me. I think if you just had a nice road car that you liked to do some spirited driving with and the occasional trackday or hillclimb/motorkhana then you could opt for the TBD, but having said that I don't even notice mine in any adverse fashion on the street anyway. Wouldn't have anything else. Helped me catch the quickest GT3s in our club last weekend, both out of some corners and under braking if you can believe that. (I'm seriously pretty chuffed but it's been tempered by the committee wanting to reclassify me up with the GT3 boys. They didn't like me in their mirrors. []) If you forgive some of my mistakes you can see the diff working on accel and deceleration here. I actually had to back off from the car in front at the end of the straight, and coming onto the straight I was able to take a tighter line and start accelerating sooner which helped me catch him. This isn't just shameless promotion as you can see I did a bit of 'Car watching' instead of line/brake point watching and lost ground because of it. When they got away from me I wound up doing a better time than them...but the fact that I couldn't have done this without the LSD is my overall point here. The only cars that did faster times were either bespoke built EVOs or Porsche Racecars on slicks. In the 2nd clip you can follow my car from my friends '86 who has a Vitesse stage 3 kit. I had to turn the boost down to let him keep up with my car. We both have the LSDs but I have the better suspension and brakes so you can see it's not all about power. (btw, if you guys want to try a great R spec tyre give the Nitto NT01 a go. I'm very impressed. I brought some in from the US and it works out way cheaper than buying Dunlops or Toyos locally.) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dj5y1355tfU http://www.vimeo.com/12702727 http://www.natsoft.com.au/cgi-bin/results.cgi?19/06/2010.WAKE.S2.Y
] Actually it's made Down Under in Melbourne by a company called Modena Engineering. They actually supply Guard US and Ferrari amongst others. It's what they term a Motorsport 60/80 plate type LSD. You can see 2 of them either side at the rear in this picture. There's a 968 one in the middle and 2 TBDs in the front. My car is clearly more track oriented and this is perfect for me. I think if you just had a nice road car that you liked to do some spirited driving with and the occasional trackday or hillclimb/motorkhana then you could opt for the TBD, but having said that I don't even notice mine in any adverse fashion on the street anyway. Wouldn't have anything else. Helped me catch the quickest GT3s in our club last weekend, both out of some corners and under braking if you can believe that. (I'm seriously pretty chuffed but it's been tempered by the committee wanting to reclassify me up with the GT3 boys. They didn't like me in their mirrors. []) If you forgive some of my mistakes you can see the diff working on accel and deceleration here. I actually had to back off from the car in front at the end of the straight, and coming onto the straight I was able to take a tighter line and start accelerating sooner which helped me catch him. This isn't just shameless promotion as you can see I did a bit of 'Car watching' instead of line/brake point watching and lost ground because of it. When they got away from me I wound up doing a better time than them...but the fact that I couldn't have done this without the LSD is my overall point here. The only cars that did faster times were either bespoke built EVOs or Porsche Racecars on slicks. In the 2nd clip you can follow my car from my friends '86 who has a Vitesse stage 3 kit. I had to turn the boost down to let him keep up with my car. We both have the LSDs but I have the better suspension and brakes so you can see it's not all about power. (btw, if you guys want to try a great R spec tyre give the Nitto NT01 a go. I'm very impressed. I brought some in from the US and it works out way cheaper than buying Dunlops or Toyos locally.) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dj5y1355tfU http://www.vimeo.com/12702727 http://www.natsoft.com.au/cgi-bin/results.cgi?19/06/2010.WAKE.S2.Y
DivineE
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I love the handling of this car, more and more every time I see it. First clip between 6.00 and 6.10 is just the perfect example. How can you get that much power down without changing your line! It looks like a 911 out of the tight bends it really does and that's the highest praise I could give any car. Great driving too. p.s. like your friends driving at 4.00 fast no, fun yes
sideways in/sideways outThanks Ben although I keep looking at my mistakes [&:]. Well this is why I put these clips in this thread as it really is a lot to do with the LSD I believe. Obviously the suspension, bushings, tyres etc play their part but I wouldn't want to go back to not having this LSD I can assure you. I bought the wing as a bit of a novelty, but I have to wonder if it is doing something out there too? It's actually a pretty nice wing but I have no idea as to it's efficiency...or lack of it. []
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Tam Lin
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Many thanks Patrick, and great videos..my iPhone thanks you. Your advice is borne out by a German professional driver, who gave me a slightly pitying look when I explained I had an open diff., he had a 968CS at the meet we were at & he took me around. Last year being driven round Silverstone in a 944TurboS with diff, I was amazed at some of the oversteer angles that were still recoverable, which I certainly wouldn't have been able to do in mine. But then, that was probably 99% driver ability and 1% diff...ORIGINAL: 333pg333 but I wouldn't want to go back to not having this LSD I can assure you [
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