£300 off kw3s

[DavidL]

http://www.demon-tweeks.co.uk/performance/coilover-suspension-kits/car/porsche/944/kw-suspension-variant-3-coilover-kit-lowers-front-25-55mm-rear-20-45mm

It is only 16% but it all counts. I've no idea if this makes a good buy but iirc I paid 1400 several years ago.

 

[blade7]

http://www.demon-tweeks.co.uk/performance/coilover-suspension-kits/car/porsche/944/kw-suspension-variant-3-coilover-kit-lowers-front-25-55mm-rear-20-45mm

It is only 16% but it all counts. I've no idea if this makes a good buy but iirc I paid 1400 several years ago.

I was told dealers weren't supposed to discount KW's when I bought mine about 8 years ago. I paid just over £1100 and they were sent direct from KW. Had to wait a few weeks for them though.

 

[DavidL]

Retail prices aren't the wholesalers domain, legally they can't influence them. Bigger companies than KW have fallen foul of that and lost.

 

[PSH]

I had an email about this....I'll stick with the Koni's...they're more than good enough for my driving, I don't do track days or anything like that so see no need to spend out on such things...

Pete

 

[blade7]

Retail prices aren't the wholesalers domain, legally they can't influence them. Bigger companies than KW have fallen foul of that and lost.

The rumour was KW wouldn't continue to supply wholesalers that discounted the kits.

 

[blade7]

I had an email about this....I'll stick with the Koni's...they're more than good enough for my driving, I don't do track days or anything like that so see no need to spend out on such things...

Pete

It's more about the ride quality on bumpy roads Pete. The stainless construction is nice too.

 

[PSH]

I appreciate that they look nice, had considered them myself in the past but decided that the price was too much for my purse..

 

[edh]

Looks a good deal to me

These are a great upgrade for a road 944, springs a little soft for a track car TBH.

 

[blade7]

I appreciate that they look nice, had considered them myself in the past but decided that the price was too much for my purse..

I've probably spent around a 1/4 on my car of what you've spent on yours Pete.

 

[944 man]

Made me smile too.

 

[PSH]

perhap

I appreciate that they look nice, had considered them myself in the past but decided that the price was too much for my purse..

I've probably spent around a 1/4 on my car of what you've spent on yours Pete.

perhaps, but my days of big spending on cars are over...I no longer work in films when money wasn't an issue...in fact, I'm technically retired due to health so just keeping the car on the road is hard enough. Without my son to wield spanners under the car (no longer possible for me) and his regular servicing of the car which I might add is in top shape both mechanically and cosmetically, I wouldn't have the pleasure of driving it today. I will continue to enjoy the car for as long as my body allows me to, hopefully, a good few years yet.

Pete

 

[blade7]

I bought my last car before the 944 from a chippy that worked at Elstree, he seemed to be doing OK too.

 

[zcacogp]

For £1550 then that needs to be SERIOUSLY good suspension and I don't think that the KW stuff is that good. I've driven two cars with it on and it's good - very good - but not streets ahead of other options.

I also recall it was about £1300 when they first appeared, about 9 years ago - including fitting, lowering of the rear torsion bar and geo. £1550 on parts alone is frankly nuts. The full price is even more nuts.

Spend your money elsewhere people. There are equally good options out there that are much, much cheaper.


Oli.

 

[PSH]

money used to be very good, no so these days...still more than what some might think is a normal weeks wage but to be honest we earn't much more 25 years ago...

 

[blade7]

I'd choke at £1550 too. I remember RPM chucking in the fitting and geo for around £1300. I don't think they touched the torsion bars at that price though.

 

[edh]

Spend your money elsewhere people. There are equally good options out there that are much, much cheaper.

Oli.

Such as?

From what I can see, only Bilstein is a reasonable option, but I wonder how much that will set you back inc all the machining / welding (plus adjustable spring platforms if you wanted a like for like comparison)

KW's stay lovely and shiny as well...

 

[zcacogp]

The price of Bilsteins seems to change with the weather but I think they work out at around £100 per corner, so £400 all in. Compared with the KW's that leaves you with £1150 in the piggy bank, which buys a LOT of custom machining and welding. (I happened to do it for just under £20 plus a pair of old scrap strut cases, but I have rather better access to a lathe and welding set than most.) And yes, I would consider Bilsteins to be as good as KW's - if not better.

I also tend not to be too bothered about the shininess of parts of my car that I never look at. Call me old fashioned and all that ....


Oli.

 

[TTM]

I have driven in length on Konis, either in M474 or M030 form, Bilsteins, either in Cup or B6 form, Moton 3 ways (which cost about as much as the car when the previous owner installed them) and then KW V3.
In my opinion and experience the KW V3 are by far the best compromise for all year round, all weather use.
The worst for me are the Konis. They are probably better than original worn out Sachs units but they do not actually dampen much.

 

[924Srr27l]

I have driven in length on Konis, either in M474 or M030 form, Bilsteins, either in Cup or B6 form, Moton 3 ways (which cost about as much as the car when the previous owner installed them) and then KW V3.
In my opinion and experience the KW V3 are by far the best compromise for all year round, all weather use.
The worst for me are the Konis. They are probably better than original worn out Sachs units but they do not actually dampen much.

KW used to use Koni inserts? but with a high speed piston compression release valve for comfort. This is why you are others rate them because they have the best of both worlds for road driving (Reasonably hard for cornering, and compliant and forgiving for pot holes and many other poor UK road surfaces)

Koni Sport (Yellow) shocks are twin tube and with stiff / hard valving hence again why you and some don't like them much, the Bilstein's B6 are Mono tube and more forgiving, the Moton's I could guess were very hard as they are more track / race orientated.

All the above and many other kits apart from the V3 KW are so biased on track use, and for some the hardness they either like or can put up with on the road, hence why i've had a bespoke set made specifically valved for the road. (Intrax) for good comfort and compliance, but also with their trick high speed piston valve and double adjustable.

R