15 inch Teledial on a 944 S2... possible?

[GlennS]

Can anyone give me an authoritative answer as to whether a 15” Teledial (7Jx15 ET 52.3) will fit onto a 944 S2. Yes, I know it will look daft... but I want to carry a full size wheel as a spare and I have a Teledial available. It will look considerably less daft than the space saver...

(as to why I don't "try it myself”, the wheel is stored several miles from home and getting to it is "inconvenient”).

TIA. G.

 

[924Srr27l]

I'd say or guess NO as it won't clear the Brembo Caliper's front or Rear...

Roger

 

[GlennS]

That would also by my guess, but it would most convenient if someone could tell me we are wrong. []

 

[924Srr27l]

Mmm Not sure it will happen (Someone who knows a 924S / 944 2.5 15" teledial will fit a 3.0 944)
As it's not too common.

What Size spare does a S2 have ? the Inflatable one?

I had to go to 16" Rims on my 924S (Also 2.7) with standard size discs to clear Wilwood Calipers..
and my spare is a Boxster front 6x16" with a Skinny space saver tyre...

Roger

 

[924Srr27l]

Out of Interest what Spec is your "Doris" (Engine, Brakes, Suspension etc... ?)

Roger

 

[GlennS]

What Size spare does a S2 have ? the Inflatable one?

The spare is 5.5J x 15"... (and its part number is correct for the S2 spare) which is what gives me some hope...

 

[GlennS]

Out of Interest what Spec is your "Doris" (Engine, Brakes, Suspension etc... ?)

Roger

Engine is 2.7l 8V (Promax chip + K&N). Brakes are standard ATE. Suspension is SPAX RSX plus Porsche 968 Club Sport M030 anti-roll bars front and rear. She's a work in progress.

 

[924Srr27l]

Ok, they do make the skinny spare's differently (Hence they fit and clear calipers etc) than full size wheels.

What's wrong with using this as a spare? why do you want a 7x15 ?

And thanks on Doris, should be better on track than a stock 44, but quite hard for the road.....
R

 

[GlennS]

The space saver spare is at least 26 years old and probably wouldn't support a wheelbarrow...

 

[GlennS]

And thanks on Doris, should be better on track than a stock 44, but quite hard for the road.....

She's also stripped (so incredibly noisy) and fitted with fixed Cobra race seats. On the road, the phrase you're looking for is "deeply unpleasant".

 

[924Srr27l]

5.5"x15 used to be a fairly wide Rim back in the 60's !

It'll be fine, the (Evo 1) 924S 2.5 has 6x15" on all four corners and eats 944's for brekkie!

My 924S 2.7 on 7x16's eat's stock S2's turbo's & 968 for fun!

Wide rims are not what they are marketed to be, A tyre contact patch is bigger on narrow width higher profile tyres than wide low profiles..

R

 

[924Srr27l]

Yes I can Imagine, mines also too noisy at the moment and I have to wear Ear Defenders all the time! unyet
I've got full carpets and OE doorcards in...
R

 

[GlennS]

5.5"x15 used to be a fairly wide Rim back in the 60's !

It'll be fine, the (Evo 1) 924S 2.5 has 6x15" on all four corners and eats 944's for brekkie!

My 924S 2.7 on 7x16's eat's stock S2's turbo's & 968 for fun!

Wide rims are not what they are marketed to be, A tyre contact patch is bigger on narrow width higher profile tyres than wide low profiles..

R

You're missing my point. Tyres degrade with age, even when stored in ideal conditions. Being in the boot of a 944 for 26 years subject to alternating high and low temperatures along with damp are far from ideal conditions. RoSPA guidelines state "Tyres that have been in storage should not be placed into use if they are over 6 years old, from their date of manufacture." so the spare wheel is already 20 years over that benchmark. To drive on it would be foolhardy.

 

[Monkeythree]

The OEM's generally don't accept anything older than 12 months for fitment to a new car and the Pirelli policy for the aftermarket was anything over 24 months old got knifed and scrapped if not sold.

 

[924Srr27l]

5.5"x15 used to be a fairly wide Rim back in the 60's !

It'll be fine, the (Evo 1) 924S 2.5 has 6x15" on all four corners and eats 944's for brekkie!

My 924S 2.7 on 7x16's eat's stock S2's turbo's & 968 for fun!

Wide rims are not what they are marketed to be, A tyre contact patch is bigger on narrow width higher profile tyres than wide low profiles..

R

You're missing my point. Tyres degrade with age, even when stored in ideal conditions. Being in the boot of a 944 for 26 years subject to alternating high and low temperatures along with damp are far from ideal conditions. RoSPA guidelines state "Tyres that have been in storage should not be placed into use if they are over 6 years old, from their date of manufacture." so the spare wheel is already 20 years over that benchmark. To drive on it would be foolhardy.

Oh the Tyre! sure if that's been in the well for 26+ years it'll be fuched!

R

 

[GlennS]

5.5"x15 used to be a fairly wide Rim back in the 60's !

It'll be fine, the (Evo 1) 924S 2.5 has 6x15" on all four corners and eats 944's for brekkie!

My 924S 2.7 on 7x16's eat's stock S2's turbo's & 968 for fun!

Wide rims are not what they are marketed to be, A tyre contact patch is bigger on narrow width higher profile tyres than wide low profiles..

R

You're missing my point. Tyres degrade with age, even when stored in ideal conditions. Being in the boot of a 944 for 26 years subject to alternating high and low temperatures along with damp are far from ideal conditions. RoSPA guidelines state "Tyres that have been in storage should not be placed into use if they are over 6 years old, from their date of manufacture." so the spare wheel is already 20 years over that benchmark. To drive on it would be foolhardy.

Oh the Tyre! sure if that's been in the well for 26+ years it'll be fuched!

R

The tyre, the wheel... it's all part of the same problem.

Vredestein make the space saver tyre. Vredestein will only sell to Porsche (I've tried to get them to sell to an independent tyre fitter). Porsche will only sell the wheel and tyre as a complete unit, they won't fit a new tyre to one. When I last spoke to them about it (6 years ago) they wanted to part me with the princely sum of £360+VAT for a new wheel.

I have 4 spare 7Jx15 ET 52.3 wheels complete with tyres that came off the 944 2.7. If one of those could somehow fit on the S2... it would solve an expensive problem.

 

[924Srr27l]

I think you'll need to go with something like this:

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Genuine-Porsche-16-6J-Alloy-Wheel-Tyre-Part-No-99636211200-Good-Condition-/222242806644?hash=item33beb41b74:g:gc4AAOSwk5FUsuuT

As the teledial wheel won't fit over the calipers..

R

 

[944 man]

The space saver spare is at least 26 years old and probably wouldn't support a wheelbarrow...

I crossed France in 2007 on a 1985 full size spare and I used a collapsible spare off a 1988 car successfully in 2012. The sidewalls did crack on the collapsible tyre, but this could have been avoided by opening it slowly and leaving time for it to adjust, rather than whacking 60psi in after twenty five years and driving on it...

 

[GlennS]

The space saver spare is at least 26 years old and probably wouldn't support a wheelbarrow...

I crossed France in 2007 on a 1985 full size spare and I used a collapsible spare off a 1988 car successfully in 2012. The sidewalls did crack on the collapsible tyre, but this could have been avoided by opening it slowly and leaving time for it to adjust, rather than whacking 60psi in after twenty five years and driving on it...

I'm pleased that worked out for you. It's an avoidable risk that I'd prefer not to have to take.

 

[924Srr27l]

You could also look out for a 6"Wide 16" D90 wheel this would suit well...on a 205/55/16 full size Tyre..