2010 Gen 2 997TT - Prices?

[Rotorhead]

Out of interest, is there any information about the basic specification and options prices and availability for the new Turbo?

I know it lists at c.£102,000, but interested to know what the 'on the road' price will be for a suitably spec'd example.

Fear it may be close to £120k [:-] - so it will need to be very, very good if the GT3 and future residuals are taken into account.

 

[yan]

The UK configurator appears to have the spec. details.

Choice of options might include (prices in UK sterling)
Sport Chrono Package Turbo including dynamic engine mounting - 2,823.00
Porsche Torque Vectoring (PTV) - 863.00
Porsche Ceramic Composite Brake (PCCB) - 5677.00
7-speed double clutch transmission (Porsche Doppelkupplung - PDK) - 2552.00
PDK 3-spoke sports steering wheel with shift paddles - 271.00
19 inch RS Spyder wheel with center lock - 2288.00
Adaptive sports seats - 659.00
Electric slide/tilt sunroof - 946.00
Dynamic cornering lights - 458.00

The following are incorporated in the base price:
ParkAssist (parking aid rear)
Windscreen with grey top tint
Telephone module
Porsche Vehicle Tracking System (VTS)
Universal audio interface
19 inch Turbo II wheel

so circa £120K sounds about ball-park for a fully-spec'd machine.

GT3 looks appears to be better value on paper essentially due to much lower base price and includes the spyder wheels at £0.00 additional.

Wonder why they are not offering the front axle lifting capability on TT? Weight or maybe GT3 dept. didn't tell TT dept. they had one.[]

According to my PC there is a delay in availability of the main brochure - I was in Zuffenhausen main dealership y'day and they didn't have them either with only a vague reason given (quite probably mis-interpreted on my part - german->english).

 

[blueSL]

My spec is similar to J's list but I couldn't bring myself to do the yellow brakes.

 

[grover]

Ive just recieved the initial hard back brochure in a box with an odd paperweight that is the new engine in miniature. I got the full price list last week with all the options on, I specced one at £122k and more if you added pccb. Makes the GT2 on Hatfield OPC at the moment with 500 miles on it at £120k seem good value.

If I didnt have a sports body kit on it and didnt have the centre lock wheels the price would sit under £115k with the pdk option, so £10k more than my last one.

 

[Alex L]

ORIGINAL: J
Wonder why they are not offering the front axle lifting capability on TT? Weight or maybe GT3 dept. didn't tell TT dept. they had one.[]

Why would they need to have one for a standard Turbo?

 

[yan]

Getting in and out of car parks where the ramps are just too steep (common in hotels, for example), over all-too-common badly constructed cross-overs into garage forecourts etc. would be my reason - my Turbo is stock and despite the adaptations they have made to the front lip versus the 996 it's still a problem, albeit less so. If you want to lower the suspension then this facility is further desirable. I'm not saying it should be standard but as an option I would specify it.
Unless I am misconceiving things the GT3 option is integral to the damper system plus a switch on the dash so in my mind it should be a straightforward thing to offer - much like having an option to not have the chrono clock with sport option - the cynical view is that Porsche are not listening to customers...

 

[Rodney Naghar]

KW do a hydraulic lift system called HLS, activated by a switch in the car. They provide lift of between 30-45mm (see Porsche Post for details). Www.kwautomotive.co.uk
Speak to someone like Chris Franklin at Center Gravity for fitting info.
I'm sure it would be a much cheaper (although warranty invalidating) alternative to the Porsche solution.

 

[okellyt]

I also suspect that Bilstein do one that raises the hight but by more like 20mm, just slightly more expensive than the ones Porsche are prepared to pay for on the Turbo.

I think it should have been an option

 

[yan]

I enquired about this at Bleinham - supply price, i.e. not inc. fitting was about the same as factory option on GT3 before fitting (if I remember correctly) but you also lose PASM so I didn't consider it further. Shame not offered from factory as I can't see it as a differentiating factor between the models.

 

[Lancerlot]

ORIGINAL: blueSL
My spec is similar to J's list but I couldn't bring myself to do the yellow brakes.

Personally, I think the PCCB's are a must with that amount of grunt if you're looking to drive spiritedly! [8D]

I would definitely drop some of the other extras in favour of this option, if budget were a concern. []

Regards,

Clive

 

[Rotorhead]

ORIGINAL: Lancerlot

ORIGINAL: blueSL
My spec is similar to J's list but I couldn't bring myself to do the yellow brakes.

Personally, I think the PCCB's are a must with that amount of grunt if you're looking to drive spiritedly! [8D]

I would definitely drop some of the other extras in favour of this option, if budget were a concern. []

Totally agree.

A 'flagship' model like the £100k TT really should have carbon ceramics as standard. But it's not just the superior braking - they save significant unsprung weight, improving ride and handling, very quiet, no brake dust or corrosion and should last over 100,000 miles.

I was at the Aston Martin factory yesterday and they were eulogising about ceramic brakes, and having driven a Vantage V8 with steels and a Vantage V12 with ceramics, the benefits are very evident.

The only reason not to have them is if the car is being used purely for track, as the consumable cost is quite high. But they last a season even on the Supercup race cars. On the road they are awesome.

 

[okellyt]

Oliver

its a good point - I've hear rumours that undre heavy track use the Ceramics don't last long and are very very expensive to repalce

However in a fast road car like a turbo I would have thought they had the prefect car to showcase the benefits and make them standard.

The fact they are not suggests there are some issues with them, either in terms of cost of prodcution versus what they can charge for them or reliability/durability.

 

[Rotorhead]

There were some issues with the first pccbs in track use, mainly due to overheating, but since the 997 era the design, manufacturing, durability, weight saving, cooling, brake bias, pads, etc have all been improved to ensure they deliver their claims. Just look what the top of the range Ferraris, Lambos, Astons, etc wear - and of course F1 cars.

 

[blueSL]

It is the cost which is putting me off. I'm told Porsche subsidise the initial cost of the option - in reality it should be £10k - but once you have them, they have you over a barrel with replacement discs £3k per corner. Fine if you get the expected long life out of them, bad news if you don't. I know even this cost pales into insignificance compared to the depreciation over, say, 3 years, but there it is.

My specc'd car has come in at £116k and the addition of the body kit and PCCB would have taken it to £125k.

 

[Lancerlot]

ORIGINAL: blueSL
My specc'd car has come in at £116k and the addition of the body kit and PCCB would have taken it to £125k.

If you're a driver, take it from me - drop the body kit et alia and buy the brakes!

Regards

Clive

 

[Alex L]

Yup, easily THE best option I put on my car from the factory. Wouldn't ever buy another sports car now without ceramics.

 

[okellyt]

I am with Clvie and Alex - buy the best brakes you can get on your new car.

On a Turbo the first option I would tick would be the ceramics

 

[bobfair]

Does the new Turbo come with 350mm or 380mm steels discs as standard? If its the former then I would say the car will be a little underbraked with the extra performance it now has. The GT3 has 380mm discs as standard and they may have also upgraded the Turbo. They have certainly jacked up the price as a sunroof was standard on the Gen 1 for example. Turbo is approx £30k more expensive than a similarly specd GT3 which does seem quite a lot

 

[pwebb]

I'd obviously bow to Clive's superior knowledge/skill/experience, but, on the base 997 I had the opportunity to drive a yellow 4S with matching calipers against my red 2S with matching calipers last week on track at Silverstone (albeit the Porsche one ). A lot of fun and had the great Dickie Attwod as instructor for the afternoon. To be honest, I never felt I noticed any great difference in retardation at the vital moments, and we were circulating for a good few laps. He certainly didn't think the standard brakes weren't up to the job. Having said all that, the extra weight of the Turbo may make a difference. If you're an average driver doing mainly road work it's a pricey extra.

 

[Alex L]

ORIGINAL: pwebb
track at Silverstone (albeit the Porsche one ).

I found a GT3 to be not much better than a C4S/C2S on the same track hammering round. Yes a little lighter, and yes faster turn-in, but woefully underpowered. So something tells me THAT track doesn't really test the cars properly to show off their true potential.