2050
- Thread starter harry
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Personally, I won’t give a monkeys about it, as I’m ‘unlikely’ to be here then, I reckon.
If I am, I’ll be embracing the technology by zooming around (at 94) in the fastest leccy/whatever car that’s around then [8D], proving that your age is all in the mind.
As for collectible Ferrari owners, well they’re nearly all 94 already (apart from Chris Evans [
])
Oh, and if I live to that year, the 993 will still be with me (I’ll need a large plot when I pop my clogs)
If I am, I’ll be embracing the technology by zooming around (at 94) in the fastest leccy/whatever car that’s around then [8D], proving that your age is all in the mind.
As for collectible Ferrari owners, well they’re nearly all 94 already (apart from Chris Evans [
])Oh, and if I live to that year, the 993 will still be with me (I’ll need a large plot when I pop my clogs)
I think you rather misread the news. The proposal is to ban the sale of *new* diesel and petrol cars, not to ban them outright. And it's 2040, not 2050.
Autocar magazine article has confirmed that Hybrids would be exempt from the ban, so the impact may not be as extreme as the initial headline suggested.
Porsche already have several Hybrid models in the range and the next generation 911 (i.e. 992) will include a petrol hybrid model...
Porsche already have several Hybrid models in the range and the next generation 911 (i.e. 992) will include a petrol hybrid model...
Can you provide a link? I haven't seen that anywhere in clear terms. It stands to reason that if the 2040 ban actually goes into effect that by 2050 a very large percentage of cars on the road won't be diesel or petrol powered but I can't find a clear statement that bans them outright.harry said:
Autocar link: https://www.autocar.co.uk...rol-and-diesel-car-ban
It not only the amount of charging points that will eventually be available. It's the length of time it takes to charge and how long these vehicle will stay plugged in, and even after they are fully charged they will be hogging the supply point until they have finished their meal or walked their dog!
When I stop on the M6 Toll services and see the two L supply points being used the same cars are there 45 minutes later or longer. Try doing that at a petrol station now and there would be chaos.
Technology will improve I accept that, but will it be done in time.
Just imagine the rows of tightly packed terraced house all with their cars plugged into their home or outside charges. Cables will be all over the pavement, kids, disability scooters and pram users will have real difficulty getting over them all.
There can be only one reasonable solution. All car parking spaces, roadside and dedicated, should have underfloor chargers and cars should be capable of induction charging without the need for cable. Perhaps even on A roads and motorways they could have cables installed under the tarmac so car can be charged by induction as they move. But then again at the painfully slow rate that our road contractor take (M60 / M6) we would need another 100 years to get that job done! Just saying.
I'm with you Paul - in 1940 I'll be 90 or on the mantelpiece in a jar - so I think this is one for the younger ones to get engaged with.
When I stop on the M6 Toll services and see the two L supply points being used the same cars are there 45 minutes later or longer. Try doing that at a petrol station now and there would be chaos.
Technology will improve I accept that, but will it be done in time.
Just imagine the rows of tightly packed terraced house all with their cars plugged into their home or outside charges. Cables will be all over the pavement, kids, disability scooters and pram users will have real difficulty getting over them all.
There can be only one reasonable solution. All car parking spaces, roadside and dedicated, should have underfloor chargers and cars should be capable of induction charging without the need for cable. Perhaps even on A roads and motorways they could have cables installed under the tarmac so car can be charged by induction as they move. But then again at the painfully slow rate that our road contractor take (M60 / M6) we would need another 100 years to get that job done! Just saying.
I'm with you Paul - in 1940 I'll be 90 or on the mantelpiece in a jar - so I think this is one for the younger ones to get engaged with.
Don't see why it's being assumed it'll be electric cars that are the non-petrol or -diesel alternative. Would be far more logical to be hydrogen cell technology and then there's far more available source supply and no need for further pollution to produce the product; no problem with the product of hydrogen combustion, ie water vapour; far less infrastructure cost to build into the equation; no major weight or range anxiety issues; and not the difficulty with little countries like the UK having the major problem of their National Grid being unlikely to cope with the massively extra demand, eg rush-hour peaks, and end of last week in July, etc etc.
Just my ha'p'orth. I'll likely be the first in the queue for a 911h !
Just my ha'p'orth. I'll likely be the first in the queue for a 911h !
vitesse
Active member
If you look what has happened to vehicles & engines over the last 23 yrs,let alone Iphones etc which didn't even exist,anything could happen -possibly nuclear powered vehicles etc.
Where is the revenue stream going to come from,HMRC in liquidation,Shell,BP Chevron,Saudi Arabia bankrupt-will be interesting too see political manouvres in the meantime -Save our NHS I hear the cries-
how do we fund it- come the revolution!!!
Where is the revenue stream going to come from,HMRC in liquidation,Shell,BP Chevron,Saudi Arabia bankrupt-will be interesting too see political manouvres in the meantime -Save our NHS I hear the cries-
how do we fund it- come the revolution!!!
ScaredJimmy
New member
Simply put, this is cobblers. This is Mr Gove trying to grab a headline as per.
The UK needs to lose it's obsession with legislating and let natural evolution take its course. Don't worry about your car, they're not going to force people to scrap their "classics". I mean, try telling some city bloke to scrap his 250 Cali worth several million? You're likely to end up in the Thames...
The UK needs to lose it's obsession with legislating and let natural evolution take its course. Don't worry about your car, they're not going to force people to scrap their "classics". I mean, try telling some city bloke to scrap his 250 Cali worth several million? You're likely to end up in the Thames...
graham tompkins
New member
Wholeheartedly agree....Gove is a publicity seeking pschophant, greasing up the eco bums at the moment..he's collecting enemies at the moment, .he'll be collecting his P45 someday soonScaredJimmy said:
pse_SC said:
I must say you look very good for 167, Peter [
LOL Paul.
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