24K vs 12K service
- Thread starter tat
- Start date
Dave Wilkinson
New member
According to my (German) Service Book it only calls for an initial service at 3-4000Km and then a general service every 20,000Km. There appears no distinction for shorter intervals.
I think you'll find that service levels seem to vary with the organisation carrying it out. I know, for instance, that J Z Machtech will give prices for 6K, 12K and 24K services and, from what I gather these constitute an oil change (6K), the standard service minus the tappet adjustment (12K) and the full works (24K). I'm sure if you ask JZM (or whoever you choose to use) you'll get a detailed breakdown of what they propose at each level.
The reason the tappet adjustment is separated out is that it seems that it's not really needed every 12K miles and it's very time and resource consuming for the garage since they have to warm up the engine for the oil change and let it cool down for the exhaust removal and tappet adjustment and then put it all back together. It just takes a lot of workshop space to leave a car for so long just cooling down - occupying space that could be used more productively for another car they CAN work on.
I'm not trying to justify their charges - I'm just making an observation, but it seems to make sense.
Regards
Dave
I think you'll find that service levels seem to vary with the organisation carrying it out. I know, for instance, that J Z Machtech will give prices for 6K, 12K and 24K services and, from what I gather these constitute an oil change (6K), the standard service minus the tappet adjustment (12K) and the full works (24K). I'm sure if you ask JZM (or whoever you choose to use) you'll get a detailed breakdown of what they propose at each level.
The reason the tappet adjustment is separated out is that it seems that it's not really needed every 12K miles and it's very time and resource consuming for the garage since they have to warm up the engine for the oil change and let it cool down for the exhaust removal and tappet adjustment and then put it all back together. It just takes a lot of workshop space to leave a car for so long just cooling down - occupying space that could be used more productively for another car they CAN work on.
I'm not trying to justify their charges - I'm just making an observation, but it seems to make sense.
Regards
Dave
Hi,
Mines having a 24k as we speak so hopefully will be able to tell you sson. I know the 24k includes gearbox oil. Trying the SWEPCO stuff if anyones interested.
Zentrum in Notts also do 6k, 12k and 24k but confuse matters by calling the 6k an annual service. Pretty sure the service book listed what was done at what mileage but havent got it on me (useful I know)
Craig
Mines having a 24k as we speak so hopefully will be able to tell you sson. I know the 24k includes gearbox oil. Trying the SWEPCO stuff if anyones interested.
Zentrum in Notts also do 6k, 12k and 24k but confuse matters by calling the 6k an annual service. Pretty sure the service book listed what was done at what mileage but havent got it on me (useful I know)
Craig
Craig, i would also be very interested to know what is done at a 24k service and the cost as I am going to book mine in at the end of the summer into Northway based in Reading & i want the full monty done, I have only had the car a month & love it although it has a FSH I want to know that it has had a main service like a 24k for peace of mind.
I look forward to hearing back from you also.
Mutt
I look forward to hearing back from you also.
Mutt
Thanks for the replies. I got the following from JZM..........
[blockquote]
964 services.[/blockquote]
[blockquote]
12k
Carry out full check over, brakes, lights, electrics, locks, switches, wheels, tyres, chassis, suspension, steering, measure wear in tyres and brakes and report to customer.
Renew oil and filter, air filter, screen wash fluid, check and top up gear oil, check and top up all levels, re-set tyre pressures, check computer and carry out system adaption, grease, lubricate and road test.
24k
Carry out full check over, brakes, lights, electrics, locks, switches, wheels, tyres, chassis, suspension, steering, measure wear in tyres and brakes and report to customer.
Renew oil and filter, air filter, pollen filters, screen wash fluid, spark plugs, remove rear exhaust box and cat exhaust, remove all rocker covers and re-set valve clearance, fit back covers with new gaskets. Check and top up gear oil, check and top up all levels, re-set tyre pressures, check computer and carry out system adaption, grease, lubricate and road test.
[/blockquote]
tat
[blockquote]
964 services.[/blockquote]
[blockquote]
12k
Carry out full check over, brakes, lights, electrics, locks, switches, wheels, tyres, chassis, suspension, steering, measure wear in tyres and brakes and report to customer.
Renew oil and filter, air filter, screen wash fluid, check and top up gear oil, check and top up all levels, re-set tyre pressures, check computer and carry out system adaption, grease, lubricate and road test.
24k
Carry out full check over, brakes, lights, electrics, locks, switches, wheels, tyres, chassis, suspension, steering, measure wear in tyres and brakes and report to customer.
Renew oil and filter, air filter, pollen filters, screen wash fluid, spark plugs, remove rear exhaust box and cat exhaust, remove all rocker covers and re-set valve clearance, fit back covers with new gaskets. Check and top up gear oil, check and top up all levels, re-set tyre pressures, check computer and carry out system adaption, grease, lubricate and road test.
[/blockquote]
tat
Dave Wilkinson
New member
That was pretty much what I expected. It's obvious that the spark plugs would get done at the same time as the valve clearances since the same dismantling is relevant to both issues. I was pretty sure that NONE of the services automatically includes a change of oil in the diffs or gearbox - just a topping up. I know JZM offer a separate "gearbox service" which involves very little other than a oil change for the gearbox.
Regards
Dave
Regards
Dave
38F3E1
PCGB Member
Factory recommendation is both spark plugs and valve clearances at 12,000 not 24,000.
From the service manual with the car it gives
6K service : no such thing for the 964.
12K service : everything described in the posts above.
24K service : 12K plus change fuel filter, automatic transmision fluid
48K service : 24K plus manual transmission oil, drive axles oil (manual and automatic)
Ian.
From the service manual with the car it gives
6K service : no such thing for the 964.
12K service : everything described in the posts above.
24K service : 12K plus change fuel filter, automatic transmision fluid
48K service : 24K plus manual transmission oil, drive axles oil (manual and automatic)
Ian.
Hi,
Had a 24k done and cost £390 + VAT. As per previous responses, only difference in the maintenance manual appears to be a fuel filter at 24k otherwise a same as a 12k.
Disappointed with the Swepso stuff for the gearbox- guess I was hoping for a 'cure all'. Gear oil change recommended at 48k service, but better to do it now if unsrue what previous services have included.
I'd have the all singing and dancing service if buying a new car. Bought mine from Norhtway!
Regards
Craig
Had a 24k done and cost £390 + VAT. As per previous responses, only difference in the maintenance manual appears to be a fuel filter at 24k otherwise a same as a 12k.
Disappointed with the Swepso stuff for the gearbox- guess I was hoping for a 'cure all'. Gear oil change recommended at 48k service, but better to do it now if unsrue what previous services have included.
I'd have the all singing and dancing service if buying a new car. Bought mine from Norhtway!
Regards
Craig
Dave Wilkinson
New member
To get a good starting point for any maintenance job it's worth looking at the J Z Machtech web site. They have menu pricing for most jobs and whilst I'm not saying that's all there is to it - you may get better prices elsewhere - it will get you in the right ball park.
Have a look http://www.jzmachtech.com/shells/service_index.php?porsche=964&model=964%20C4&engine=3.6&year=1990 and make sure you select the right model/year etc and it will list all the jobs and the prices.
Regards
Dave
Have a look http://www.jzmachtech.com/shells/service_index.php?porsche=964&model=964%20C4&engine=3.6&year=1990 and make sure you select the right model/year etc and it will list all the jobs and the prices.
Regards
Dave
Posts made and opinions expressed are those of the individual forum members
Use of the Forum is subject to the Terms and Conditions
