60k service

[Trap125]

I'm thinking of buying a 993 and the car I'm looking at is due a 60k service. The Porsche independent garage has said that the car will get a full service before purchase but how will I know if they've done all the 60k service items? I know 60k is a major service and is fairly expensive but I would want it done right. I have no idea how I would tell if the gearbox oil has been changed for example. Do I just have to trust them?

 

[D Ward]

Ask them to take a few photos as they go along, dont think that would be an unreasonable request as you are spending a large wedge or better still ask if you can take a look when its up in the air and stripped as you want to get an idea what its like under there.

A couple of spark plugs tend to get missed, as they are a pain in the backside to get at, have seen it on a couple of cars, the two hard plugs when you finally get them out are different to the other ten

 

[Stewart Rix]

48k miles is actually the standard 'major' service interval and includes plugs etc, not 60k miles. Following that logic, and adding on 12k miles, 60k will be the next 'minor' oil service. However, low annual usage/mileage also comes into play - regardless of mileage, Porsche recommend an annual service. You'll probably therefore have to see when the last 'major' service was done to work out when the next one is due.

 

[dparslow]

It would be a 60k or 5 year service, it will be well out of synch. on normal time/mileage basis as the car will be 13 years old or older. Much more important is when it last had the big service where all the filters, spark plugs, brake fluid and gear oils were changed. If in doubt get them to change everything even if you have to contribute a little, you know its done then and will set you up for a few years only requiring oil services.

 

[Gordon Attar]

ORIGINAL: dparslow

It would be a 60k or 5 year service, it will be well out of synch. on normal time/mileage basis as the car will be 13 years old or older. Much more important is when it last had the big service where all the filters, spark plugs, brake fluid and gear oils were changed. If in doubt get them to change everything even if you have to contribute a little, you know its done then and will set you up for a few years only requiring oil services.

If the last service was a 12k(annual )it needs to be a 24k service (every 2 years) and a 48k is every 4 years which is only gear box oil and fuel filter on top of 24k. When were the belts last changed is also a question to ask.

 

[clyde]

ORIGINAL: Gordon Attar

ORIGINAL: dparslow

It would be a 60k or 5 year service, it will be well out of synch. on normal time/mileage basis as the car will be 13 years old or older. Much more important is when it last had the big service where all the filters, spark plugs, brake fluid and gear oils were changed. If in doubt get them to change everything even if you have to contribute a little, you know its done then and will set you up for a few years only requiring oil services.

If the last service was a 12k(annual )it needs to be a 24k service (every 2 years) and a 48k is every 4 years which is only gear box oil and fuel filter on top of 24k. When were the belts last changed is also a question to ask.

It's more accurate to say that the 12,000 miles service is carried out bi-annually (every two years) and the 24,000 and 48,000 mile services once every four years. That is to say the first service is a 12k, second service a 24k, third service a 12k and the fourth service a 48k, repeated ad infinitum. This is time related also, so these servicing schedules should be carried out annually regardless of the recorded mileage or at the mileage if earlier.

So you cannot say that its done 60,000, therefore it's due a 12k service (48k + 12k). Likewise I wouldn't advocate going for "a few years" giving it only "oil services" after it has had a 48k service, I would suggest one year is the most you could do that.

But to go back to the original question, is the garage saying that they will give it a 60,000 mile service? If so I don't know that I would want to trust them with that seeing as how there is no such thing according to the Porsche servicing schedule. That aside, why would you not trust the garage to do the job that they say they will do? If you cannot trust them with such a basic thing why would you even be thinking about buying a car from them?

 

[Trap125]

Thanks for the advice.

I have been back to the dealer to look at the car again and this time spoke withe the business owner. He has assured me that the car will be serviced correctly - after all he wants happy customers and repeat business. He seemed like a decent guy and was happy for me to spend as much time as I liked looking over the car. I definitely have a lot more confidence in them now - we shall see!

Thanks again.

 

[Mark Elder]

Who is the dealer? Some of us may know his reputation...

 

[Trap125]

Who is the dealer? Some of us may know his reputation...

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Mark Elder

Its Strasse in Leeds

 

[clyde]

ORIGINAL: Trap125

Who is the dealer? Some of us may know his reputation...

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Mark Elder

Its Strasse in Leeds

I've never dealt with them personally but from what I've read they do have a good reputation and will be keen to keep it that way, so would be very surprised if they didn't do exactly what they say they will.

 

[Gordon Attar]

Ditto Clydes comment, I would ask them to do the gearbox oil and fuel filter

 

[70sthrowback]

I have used Strasse for the last 6 years and have only had good dealings with them. They know their stuff

 

[dparslow]

ORIGINAL: clyde

ORIGINAL: Gordon Attar

ORIGINAL: dparslow

It would be a 60k or 5 year service, it will be well out of synch. on normal time/mileage basis as the car will be 13 years old or older. Much more important is when it last had the big service where all the filters, spark plugs, brake fluid and gear oils were changed. If in doubt get them to change everything even if you have to contribute a little, you know its done then and will set you up for a few years only requiring oil services.

If the last service was a 12k(annual )it needs to be a 24k service (every 2 years) and a 48k is every 4 years which is only gear box oil and fuel filter on top of 24k. When were the belts last changed is also a question to ask.

So you cannot say that its done 60,000, therefore it's due a 12k service (48k + 12k). Likewise I wouldn't advocate going for "a few years" giving it only "oil services" after it has had a 48k service, I would suggest one year is the most you could do that.

It all depends on intended usage, if you only do 3 - 5k miles a year it doesn`t need a 24k service every two years, if you want to do 12k a year it will.

 

[stephenh]

I bought my C2S from Strasse in 2010 and was not overly happy with the 'corner cutting'. I bought the car in April 2010 and spent the winter giving the car a thorough service & replaced many parts.
I do all my own mechanical work & was suprised at how many service jobs has been skimped on or not done considering the car was maintained by them for 5 years. My advice woulkd be to check exactly what work they are doing. I am sure they are quite capable. Enyoy your Porsche!

 

[clyde]

ORIGINAL: dparslow


It all depends on intended usage, if you only do 3 - 5k miles a year it doesn`t need a 24k service every two years, if you want to do 12k a year it will.

Think we'll need to agree to disagree on this one Dave

 

[Gordon Attar]

12k service £235+v
24k service £385+v

If you are doing 3 to 5 k and I was buying your car I might let you get away with in a 3 year period 2 * 12k and 1 *24k. Its not worth doing withouy as the loss in value far exceeds the servicing cost

 

[Trap125]

Many thanks for all the advice and opinions.

I got them to agree on full service - oil, filters, spark plugs, transmission oil, brake fluid, etc. I also asked them to fix a couple of small items - heater mixing flap motors and engine lid support struts.

I picked the car up yesterday and went over it with them & it appears that they have been true to their word. If I have any issues they have assured me that they will put them right. I have a lot more confidence in them now after spending a bit of time with them. They even took me to a fuel station and gave me a free half tank of fuel! That's the first time any dealer has done that for me.

I've driven 300 miles in the car between yesterday and today and I have to say that I think I'm really going to like it!! It sounds brilliant!!!

Thanks again.