718 Cayman and Boxster GTS Revealed

[ralphmusic]

Oddly PDK has (a tad) more torque. I think they have plenty of tuning headroom for future generations.Equipment levels much improved.

 

[MrDemon]

I cannot get excited over it :-(

 

[Motorhead]

First details here:

https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/new-cars/porsche-718-cayman-gts-and-boxster-gts-revealed-361bhp

A 15bhp power hike over the 718S versions thanks to the use of a new air intake system and a tweaked turbocharger. Lots of extra standard equipment.

Debut planned for the LA Show in November.

Jeff

 

[Gazoak]

Me neither, I'd rather keep my 981S with 325bhp and 6 cylinders.

 

[Peter_Bull]

Me neither, I'd rather keep my 981 with 275bhp and 6 cylinders

 

[Nick_USA]

Flat 6 is the way to go .... and if the Approved Used is anything to go by the original GTS is more in demand that the current GT4.

 

[Brian_Innes]

I'm not overexcited by this 718 Cayman GTS either.......

With such very modest power and torque hike over the current 718 CS I am not going to be rushing to my OPC to place an order for this rather cynical Porsche marketing exercise.

Besides, my car already has all the sporty extras already fitted, e.g. PDK Sport Chrono, Alcantara GT steering wheel, LSD, -20mm lowered PASM, PSE, wider 20" alloys etc, etc.....

The forthcoming 718 GT4 will be the real business whatever the cylinder count.

Brian

 

[Gazoak]

Yes Brian, it will be interesting to see if it is a 4 or 6.

 

[Motorhead]

Very modest power and torque increases over the 718S versions: 15bhp and 7lbf-ft. Hardly groundbreaking for a forced induction engine, although the max torque is spread over a wider engine speed range (+500revs/min). All rather puzzling since a simple remap easily could have achieved twice those figures.

Perhaps the modified intake system is also designed to improve(?) the sound of the f-4 turbo engine.

Jeff

 

[Twinfan]

I think it's been set to its position in the hierarchy i.e. slightly less power than a base 991.2 Carrera. I'm sure more power could have been obtained if the marketing folk would have let them....

The next GT4 will be a flat six and a mild tweak of the current one IMHO, with a handful of extra HP and a 4.0 version of the last 3.8ltr.

 

[paul08]

Losing the 6 cylinder engine is a retrograde step I think

https://www.porsche.com/u...ls/718/718-gts-models/

 

[Brian_Innes]

For the purposes of entertainment I would wish to submit the following fantasy scenario..........

BJ Innes, Head of Marketing and Purpose at Porsche Gbmh, Stuttgart, (apologies to BBC's W1A), has announced the following new model developments for the Cayman sports coupe range. Pay attention naysayers, this is good.....

2017 November Los Angeles launch

718 Cayman GTS. Retaining the single 2.5 lt turbo 4 cylinder power unit with a power increase of 50bhp and 60 Nm torque giving 410bhp and 480Nm torque. PDK Sports Chrono, -20mm Lowered Sports PASM, Mechanical locking diff with revised settings, new Sports exhaust, new lightweight wheels, 8.5" x 20" front, 11" x 20" rear, shod with Michelin Cup 2 tyres, Alcantara steering GT wheel, gear selector and door trim standard. No cost option of sports bucket seats in place of Sports Plus seats. Aero improvements to include new front splitter and rear diffuser with fixed rear wing. Price £70,000

2018 March Geneva launch

982 GT4. (Drop the 718 monicker for the 6 cylinder model)

4.0lt Six-cylinder engine from the 991.2 GT3 slightly detuned to 485bhp, (must keep the Cayman in its place), PDK Sports Chrono with GT3 RS mapping, track focused passive suspension -30mm lower, adjustable lower track control arms front and rear, brakes as from the GT3 front and rear, wheels and tyres as 718 GTS but centre-lock, active aero front and rear with GT3 RS rear wing, Carbon hatch lid with plastic window, Carbon bucket seats, Alcantara trim throughout, Steering wheel 12 o'clock marker, full harness seat belts and roll cage optional.

Price £90,000.

There is as much chance of this becoming reality under the current Porsche marketing, as me becoming Head of Marketing and Purpose. It was fun composing it though.......

Brian

 

[Dick Dastardly]

There is a Porsche 718 GTS Video available on You Tube. They make a big thing in the video about the uplift in power but can’t see a 4.2% increase as being very significant.

 

[Twinfan]

Same as the 981 though, it was only a mild power increase. It was more about the GTS package and the alcantara trim etc plus the absolutely fabulous GTS PSE []

 

[ralphmusic]

There is a GT4 Clubsport 4.2L TUV road registered car running today and the engine upgrade will be available soon for all 3.4L and 3.8L 981 cars. I expect it will sound OK but maybe lose Porsche warranty

I am not sure there is any difference in the 981 sports exhausts, PET does not show any difference. People talked of a synthesiser but it is not obvious that there is one.

 

[Twinfan]

There's a sound symposer on the GTS that directs intake noise into the cabin - pipework finishes just behind the firewall carpeting and there's a hole in the soundproofing there I believe. It was researched and discussed on Rennlist.

The GTS PSE differences are in mapping I think, adding extra burbling and crackles on the overrun. I think the hardware is the same as you say.

 

[ralphmusic]

There's a sound symposer on the GTS that directs intake noise into the cabin

Thanks for the info but oh dear.

This au naturel..

[link]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E74FSF40Cqo[/url]

 

[Twinfan]

There's nothing artificial about it! It's just plastic piping directing some intake noise into the cabin. Unlike my wife's Focus RS that pipes recorded engine noise through the stereo []