718 Major Service/ Brakes Costs?

[Twinfan]

I think that's a fair price for the 4yr service. As of a few years ago they became all-inclusive so the brake fluid change is part and parcel of that price. I don't think you'll get £150 knocked off if you say you don't want it doing, so I'd just get the OPC to do it all.

As for the brakes, they can advise all they like but if they're only worn and not worn out then you're fine to refuse the work. As you say, an Indy can probably fit genuine parts for a cheaper price than the OPC can as the labour will be less. However, it might be worth getting a quote as if the difference might not be that great - some Indy prices have crept up of late!

 

[mikeg]

I had an extended warranty on my 981, so when advised to change the front discs I bought the genuine Porsche item at £165 per disc to ensure it wasn't invalidated. It was only when I went to fit them that it became apparent that they were actually Pagid discs that I could have got at Euro Car Parts for £55. Ditto the Textar pads. Lesson learnt .......

 

[gronk1967]

Hi all, I'm getting to the point where I'm looking at quotes for the 2nd service on my 718. I put a fair few miles on in the 1st 18 months and had the 2 year (20k?) service pretty early. 24 months have passed and I'm starting to get mails for the OPC that a service ' may be due' so I'm expecting to book in in the next few months.

When when I had my MOT a few months ago the OPC managed to make me paranoid about my brakes although both discs & pads seem to have plenty of material and are stopping the car perfectly! (as a footnote I have put miles on the car & love the country lanes but the vast majority of my daily driving is a 6 mile run on dual carriageway so I'm generally not driving and applying the brakes harshly). I was told front pads were approx 60% worn and there was start of a lip on the front discs (that may result in squealing, which hasn't appeared yet!). Rears were OK. I was quoted a what seemed like a crazy £1400 top remediate and to make sure they checked the car again soon. I'm sure when I revisit they'll raise this again as it'll be on the cars history but I intend using an independent as this doesn't seem like complex job and I don't believe the brakes are a warranty item so shouldn't impact the extended Porsche warranty.

I've just had a quote for the service of £1050. This includes a brake fluid change which I thought was independent of the service schedule? I know it needs doing but its a £150- £200 part of the service charge and is something I'll be doing either before or after the service depending on when the service light comes on. This means I've either just paid for it or will be paying for it again imminently. The dealer is hiding behind the fixed price schedule and very evasive about removing the fluid change

A few questions...

Does anyone out there have a similar experience of removing the brake fluid change from the schedule or have any advise on the brakes re warranty and and opinions of having the work done @ OPC vs independent?

Thanks in advance

 

[Motorhead]

Simon,

I agree with Dave’s comments about the inclusive brake fluid service and brake disc and pad wear. As always the dealers are always looking for work, and you can always wait until the pad wear sensors kick-in to give you a warning, although I’d recommend replacing the pads before then. I think you’ll find that the discs have a recommended minimum thickness stamped on them if you’re able to check.

I’m not sure that Mike’s comment is 100% correct. Textar do indeed supply pads to Porsche but the spec of OEM parts may be slightly different from the official parts, as will be the part numbers. The same most probably applies to Pagid and possibly Sebro if they do supply Porsche with brake discs. Although brakes aren’t covered by the Extended Warranty I suppose that theoretically you could fall foul of not using official Porsche parts.

Jeff

 

[Scrounger]

I also have to agree with Dave and Jeff. ~£1000 for a major isn't that bad and don't forget that also includes changing the spark plugs and, again, a brake fluid change is needed every 2 years.

Something to be aware of as well is that they may offer you the extended warranty at service time (if you've not already taken it out) and 'should' waiver the inspection cost (£200??) if its taken out when the service is done as most of the items checked are also done on the service.

Re brakes, I'd be seriously tempted to get prices from an indie but, as Dave has already alluded to, the costs may be not a million miles away. If you're any good on the tools, it may be worth changing the discs and pads yourself before the wear sensor pings as it'll need resetting using the PIWIS and you'll have to go to a garage for that. Looking at Design 911s website a set of genuine front S discs and pads will set you back £600 yet the Brembo set is only £370. If you have a base model they are sooooo much cheaper at £200.

According to Ninemeister, their 40k service is £595 plus brake fluid change at £84.

Dan

 

[AlistairF]

Watch what is on the service schedule, the 4 year service I had 2 years ago was initially quoted at £1,400. That included the brake fluid change, plugs and condition check of the ancilliary drive belt. I had a grumble as it was miles away from the 'fixed prices' published at the time. They gave me the drive belt check FOC eventually so saved £200 ish. The drive belt was changed this year at 6 years and the 'old one' looked brand new...21k miles but if you have a warranty difficult to duck these items.

 

[Scrounger]

Here's the service schedule for the 718

 

[gronk1967]

Cheers everyone for the replies. Despite how it must have come across I don’t really have a problem with the the price of the service. Sure the the labour charges still make me laugh when you know the guy doing the work is getting paid a fraction of it and OPC’s aren’t offering the facilities that they argue justifies the costs, work areas, refreshments, courtesy cars etc in the current COVID world. It is what it is, and it’s necessary to maintain the extended warranty. Rather its the negatory coast of the brake fluid change when it will have been done only weeks before (or will be done a few weeks after) when i have the work done on the brakes.

The brakes on he other hand are a different matter as using a independent shouldn’t (?!) impact the warranty and i consider these a consumable, and in the dame way I wouldn’t pay a OPC for new tyres, the independent looks the right way to go. I got an updated price thru from the OPC earlier, £584.70 for front pads only; or £96168 for front discs & pads. I’m still waiting for a price from local independents although as suggested i may be surprised that the prices are close. Alas I’m no good with the spanners To do it myself, but if @scrounger is right it may be worth my while learning to save IRO £700!

I suspect part of my reticence is the fact I’ve not normally had a car >2yrs so have changed the car before hitting similar costs which I suspect are are aimed at directing me into putting the £2k+ into a a deposit on on a new car vs. maintenance on the one already on the drive LOL.

 

[Scrounger]

Heres a good Youtube How To

[link]https://youtu.be/P-OItNunDZ0[/url]

 

[gronk1967]

Heres a good Youtube How To

https://youtu.be/P-OItNunDZ0

Last time I tried to do anything mechanical it was 1991 and included Slik50 & Redex, I suspect the resulting oil stain remains on the the cul-de-sac….I am the very epitome of the saving ‘all the gear, no idea’…I’m also a Yorkshireman and have all the stereotypes that apply

 

[Scrounger]

With that in mind, it may be prudent to pay a man to do it!

 

[Tunaz100]

Hi all, I was quoted £1455 for the 4 yr. service on my 718 2.0t today in the NW based on Porsche fixed price cost, seems excessive to me but is it about right?

 

[Scrounger]

Does the invoice give you a breakdown of what was done and costs?

Dan

 

[Twinfan]

I think that's about right now for a 4yr service at an OPC if it's "all in", unfortunately.

It should start with the same items as the 2yr service which would be an oil and filter change plus a bunch of checks and include a brake fluid change. 4yr service then adds more checks/adjustments and a change of spark plugs.

 

[kasspa]

Hi Simon,

FYI - comparison.....

https://www.dovehousecars.com/servicing/#fixedpriceservicing

Discs & pads all round you're probably looking at around £1k

Sebro/Textar

 

[Ryan9729]

I couldn't find a sticky thread for this to store this information but I got two quotes this morning for a 2-year service on a 718 GTS 4.0.

Colchester - £1,034.29 (with PCGB discount).
Norwich - £843.24 (with PCGB discount).

Work includes:
1 x seal ring8 x
1 LITRE ENGINE OIL MOBIL1 0W-40 ESP X 3
1 x TOPUP/BAG1 x AIR FILTER AIR SUCTION
1 x WINDOW CLEANER OUTER
1 x Odour and allergen filter
1 x CAP
1 x Oil filter insert

1X Replace Brake Fluid / Check Tyre Sealant(Composite Work)

I just though that would be useful information.

 

[Scrounger]

If you take the oil and bag plus the windscreen washer concentrate off you'll save ~£50.

 

[Mattfsan]

I went independent, Porsche Leeds quoted me about 1800, got it done at Porschetek for about 800. That was 4 year major, replacing spark plugs, filters etc using all the same Porsche parts.

Highly recommend them if you're near Leeds up north.

Obvs some people like to stick with OPC and that's fine, I personally plan to keep the car for good so no need to maintain the resale premium. The lads up at Porschetek are ex Porsche technicians and have been doing it for a long time, really great to chat to and they take their time and do things properly. They'll also give you honest opinions if they reckon something is a good or bad idea etc.

Nothing wrong with Porsche Leeds as well, lad named Jonathan Green worked on my car to replace a faulty PADM. Great guy.