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911 996 C4 miss fire

Bhall01

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We have had a major service, replaced plugs and coil packs. CEL still comes on over 5000 RPM.
The air intake and exhaust systems have been tested for gas tight, OK.
Coil packs have been moved to different cylinders, CEL still registers same fault on cylinders 1 and 3
Oxygen sensors and vario cam solenoids have been swapped over, CEL still registers same fault on cylinders 1 and 3

Has anyone had similar problem and knows of any possible fix?

Any help appreciated
Bob
 
Welcome Bob!! How about injectors? That's all I can think of, having done what you have. What were the fault codes, by the way? P0301 and P0303?
 
Hello Richard, Many thanks for the reply. Injectors and fuel pressure all checked out - OK as are the cylinder pressures The error codes are: - P0300 & P0303 and sometimes P0301 The Garage tells me they are going to check for blockages in the left exhaust next (CAT or baffles) Any ideas appreciated Bob
 
Below are extracts from the diagnostic sheets. If you would like a full copy, drop me an email: Function: To detect misfiring, the drop in engine speed which results when there is a partial lack of combustion at one or more cylinders is evaluated. A distinction is made between emission relevant misfiring after start-up, emission relevant misfiring during the journey and misfiring which is damaging to the TWC. (See fault text table on page P - 3). The engine speed is measured with an inductive sensor that is located above the ring gear on the flywheel. The ring gear is divided into three segments. For detection, the time between two segments is measured and the difference calculated. This difference is corrected by a mean value that is developed over several segments, to compensate for engine speed fluctuations caused by driving conditions. If the corrected value is above a specified threshold value which is dependent on engine speed and engine load, a misfire is detected. (See also Misfire detection description on pages B - 1 to B - 2). DTC No. - Fault conditions P0300 - Misfiring in several cylinders P0301 - Misfiring, cylinder 1 P0302 - Misfiring, cylinder 2 P0303 - Misfiring, cylinder 3 P0304 - Misfiring, cylinder 4 P0305 - Misfiring, cylinder 5 P0306 - Misfiring, cylinder 6 Fault area: – Mechanical causes – Fault in ignition system – Fault in injection system Combustion miss – Mixture too rich – Mixture too lean Possible mechanical causes of faults: Valve lifter chattering. This is caused by dirt in the valve lifter. When the Check Engine MIL lights up, a chattering valve lifter may also occur for a certain time. The DME control module registers (sporadic) misfiring at one or more cylinders. The mixture adaptation values are normal. Remedy 1. Remove lifter bores, check for damage and blow out oil passages. 2. Replace all valve lifters (engine installed). 3. During the test drive, listen for valve lifter noises.
 
The dealer has come back saying it is a faulty catalytic converter, now replaced along with the pre and post lamba probes. Besides the list of all the normal system tests (which the engine pasted) the garage use a "borescope" to examine the exhaust’s including both catalytic convertors and found the left hand side ones' honeycomb was deformed and detached from the casing, right hand side cat not showing any signs of adverse ware. Probably as a result of the faulty coil packs which caused the misfire and in turn allowed unburnt fuel into the exhaust where it has ignited and burn away some of the cat and it's fixings which is causing a blockage in the exhaust system at higher rev's. Replaced the Cat and lamba (oxygen) sensors on that side of the engine, 911 back on the road and running better than ever, very smooth through the entire rev range, just a dented wallet! Also found this link which adds to the diagnosis: - http://forums.rennlist.com/rennforums/996-forum/696246-996-misfire-and-failing-catalytic-converter.html Thanks to the dealer who resolved the error for us. I can only hope this thread can help save someone else some of the expense......... Now lets have some sun shine and get the top down! Bob
 

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