911 Turbo or the new RS4 ??
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lol...if i dont ask i will never know...[
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my cousion has a RS4...and i just love it...but the Turbo has alway been like wow...
though must say the porsche dealer offered me £14K for my M5 in P/X and the Audi dealer offered me £8K...so oviosuly thats a + point on my side..
Okay....someone tell me why i should buy a 911
Running and serviceing costs etc...any common issues that i need to look out for...
...and i am sure you will do a much better job then a Sales Rep working for Porsche... ;-)
]my cousion has a RS4...and i just love it...but the Turbo has alway been like wow...
though must say the porsche dealer offered me £14K for my M5 in P/X and the Audi dealer offered me £8K...so oviosuly thats a + point on my side..
Okay....someone tell me why i should buy a 911
Running and serviceing costs etc...any common issues that i need to look out for...
...and i am sure you will do a much better job then a Sales Rep working for Porsche... ;-)
SCOTJC
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i loooked at an rs4 when i couldn't find a decent turbo. It was a great car and in a couple of years will make a great second car[] But its nowhere near as quick as the turbo and i couldn't justify £50k on an audi saloon that looked the same as a £20k audi to most of the public! It had an ace interior (style and purpose) but didn't have a wow factor and didn't seem any quicker than my facelift Carrera 2. The turbo on the other hand is nothing short of fast and, where i live is still a rare-ish sight. Have a shot of a turbo and pretty sure if you don't need the space you'll buy one. Only probs is what to go for after it[]
] But its nowhere near as quick as the turbo and i couldn't justify £50k on an audi saloon that looked the same as a £20k audi to most of the public! It had an ace interior (style and purpose) but didn't have a wow factor and didn't seem any quicker than my facelift Carrera 2. The turbo on the other hand is nothing short of fast and, where i live is still a rare-ish sight. Have a shot of a turbo and pretty sure if you don't need the space you'll buy one. Only probs is what to go for after it[]oceancarrera
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You're comparing apples with oranges... except both are fast.
So if the only reason you're willing to consider both is that they are fast, then the TT is FASTER.
Go TT.
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i loooked at an rs4 when i couldn't find a decent turbo. It was a great car and in a couple of years will make a great second car[
Really...i did'nt thing the C2 is quicker then the new RS4...though i loved the RS4 interior, however the 911 interior is the same throughout the range in all the models...
Well...i have a 4month old baby...and the sales men said..that if my babyseat dnt fit in the back Porsche do one that will...i guess its a different question if the baby will fit it though.. lol
Not find a decent Turbo..i am thinking its a top car, owned by carefull drivers who do more then just rag it from A to B..well i could be wrong..but really did not want to go through that hassel and end up with a pipe of KaK...
whould it be better to get a used one from a Porsche dealer?
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PGAdamopoulos
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The RS4 is the best value for money, but he 911 Tutbo is the best fun for money.[]
The choise is very easy...[]
I sold my very quick, like new S4 TT with 20k to get my 964 and I am very happy...[][][]
]The choise is very easy...[
]I sold my very quick, like new S4 TT with 20k to get my 964 and I am very happy...[
][][]Modern 911 turbos are all tt. I think there is more to performance comparisons than 0-60 times. Auto car did a test a while ago involving a Cayman, RS4 and a couple of other cars, if my memory is correct on normal country roads the RS4 could not keep up and the Cayman won the contest. You could get e new Cayman, but of course it does not have the seats you require for your baby. Despite the Cayman lads thinking they have the best handling Porsche, on real roads they can't keep up with a 911 turbo. Therefore neither will an RS4. There is no supercar (an RS4 is not a supercar, but a very well built competent saloon) that can touch the 911 Turbo for practicality and in most road situations. It also has the added advantage that you have 2 (small but useable) rear seats. I use my X50 911 Turbo and average 12000 miles a year in it. It carries my 6 year grand daughter easily and has taken four adults to the pub. It is brilliant all year round, particularly in the wet. |Very comfortable and amazing economical on petrol for its performance (much better than and RS4). I have yet to come across a car that is faster on the road. I have owned a Porsche for nearly 20 years and it is my best yet. Hopefully there will be an X50 997 turbo coming now that the GT2 has been launched. Go for it get the Porsche you will love it. Why have Audi stopped production????
Traded my V8 S4 in for a 993 tt three years ago. Everybody thought and still thinks I was mad. I dont regret it, but god the S4 was a damm sight cheaper to run. Its just if your porsche has no warranty and the Audi did, you really feel the difference in the pocket. At the time my concern was depreciation, and the porsche has been a very good at not loosing money, so if the 996 has a warranty and holds its money as well as mine has, then the porsche may be the buy for you. Im still a sucker for fast audi's though, there so usable.
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all 996 turbos are twin turbos hence they're quite often refered to as 996tt. They are one per bank of three and both work at the same time not sequentially as many people think.
Autocar times 0-60 3.9, 0-100 9.4
rs4 0-60 4.5, 0-100 10.5
maybe these show difference a bit better, 70-90mph
carrera 6th 7.1 5th 5.2 4th 3.6
rs4 6th 5.8 5th 4.7 4th 3.7
turbo 6th 4.7 5th 3.7 4th 3.0
Autocar times 0-60 3.9, 0-100 9.4
rs4 0-60 4.5, 0-100 10.5
maybe these show difference a bit better, 70-90mph
carrera 6th 7.1 5th 5.2 4th 3.6
rs4 6th 5.8 5th 4.7 4th 3.7
turbo 6th 4.7 5th 3.7 4th 3.0
So, basically, you can't be in the wrong gear in a turbo. [
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What about the Turbo S? is this only for the 997's
Intresting...having a M5 at present, yes its a family car..and convinient, but the performance figures of the TT are very impresive..Did go out to a shop looking for a Porsche Magazine...but noone has them...any recomendations on which one of were i could get it from?
My brother in Germany at present who also has a M5, was left for dust by a Turbo S, well it was more like come from nowhere and disapeared whilst he tried every gear to keep up.... lol
Okay...i cant take this anymore....I WANT one...but seems noone is buying cars at present or it could just be the M5's.... [&:]
Intresting...having a M5 at present, yes its a family car..and convinient, but the performance figures of the TT are very impresive..Did go out to a shop looking for a Porsche Magazine...but noone has them...any recomendations on which one of were i could get it from?
My brother in Germany at present who also has a M5, was left for dust by a Turbo S, well it was more like come from nowhere and disapeared whilst he tried every gear to keep up.... lol
Okay...i cant take this anymore....I WANT one...but seems noone is buying cars at present or it could just be the M5's.... [&:]
The Turbo S is the run out 996 turbo and had the X50 kit as standard rather than an option (although list price went up by £10k) giving it basically the same engine as the GT2 apart from a slight difference in the ecu that limits bhp to 450. If you look back through this Turbo forum to about March 1996 Stuart Martin gave lots of information on the 996 turbo. The 997 turbo has variable vein turbo chargers and an overboost facility giving more bhp (about 472) although I think that the torque figure is the same as the X50 996tt. The 996 Turbo S also has a few other "extras" as standard including ceramic brakes, which is why I went for the newest X50 turbo I could find. Although many sing the praises of the ceramics I did not want the potential cost of replacement. (£10k). I have not found the steel ones lacking in any way.
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A 996tt will cost more to run in the long term. Bugdet at least £1k for a major service every 2 years. Tyres around £800-£1000 a set - probably last between 5k-15k miles - depending on driving type. MPG around 20-23.
They have been dropping in value over the last 2 years - but prices have settled over the last 6 months. I would buy from a Porsche main dealer - you will get a 1 year warranty and then its £895 (or so) to extend the warranty annually thereafter, if anything goes wrong a 996tt its big money to repair.
Performance wise - theres very little in it. Both are more than quick enough on public roads although the porker would be a little quciker on the track.
In the RS4 defence - it does have a superb engine note and a beautiful interior and is extremely well built.
One issue with the 996tt - it does attract a lot of negative attention (probably more than a RS4) which can become a pain after a while.
Anyway - the porker is probably more fun to own and that counts for a lot!
enjoy,
Sniper
They have been dropping in value over the last 2 years - but prices have settled over the last 6 months. I would buy from a Porsche main dealer - you will get a 1 year warranty and then its £895 (or so) to extend the warranty annually thereafter, if anything goes wrong a 996tt its big money to repair.
Performance wise - theres very little in it. Both are more than quick enough on public roads although the porker would be a little quciker on the track.
In the RS4 defence - it does have a superb engine note and a beautiful interior and is extremely well built.
One issue with the 996tt - it does attract a lot of negative attention (probably more than a RS4) which can become a pain after a while.
Anyway - the porker is probably more fun to own and that counts for a lot!
enjoy,
Sniper
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