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930 vs 3.2

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When I was recently on holiday, I was able to drive my best mates 1985 930. It was an interesting comparison to a 3.2 and a difficult one as well. Difficult, because the gearing (4 speed) is so tall that it is a little hard to guage just how fast you are accellerating. First is good for at least 30 or 40mph and second for 80mph. Fourth is theoretically good for about 190mph!

When people talk about turbo lag I think they are thinking of 930s. There is virtually nothing below 2500rpm and very little below 3500rpm. If a 930 driver is caught in the wrong gear, the 3.2 driver will be long gone. Bury it in second at 2000rpm and you wait, and wait some more and then at about 3500rpm you hear the turbo spooling up and then - only then - does every start to happen. Once on boost it is, too be fair, very rapid. I think only after 90 or 100mph though would a 930 leave a 3.2 behind. If memory serves me correctly, the performance figures back this up. I think that in 0-60mph and standing quarter mile times the 3.2 is only just behind the 930. I remember R&T's first test of a US Carrera and their comment that the 3.2 virtually made the 930 redundant. Well that may be going a little far...

Other impressions are of good brakes with a very firm pedal and good modulation. Steering is no heavier (even though this 930 had big 17 inch wheels). The car feels heavier, although this is mostly just a feeling created, I think, by the widely spaced gears and the turbo lag. Clutch is also fairly heavy, much more so than my G50. Handling feels much like our 3.2s but I didn't really have occasion to push hard. I get the feeling that pushing a 930 really hard requires a bigger set of cajones than a 3.2. Timing when the boost comes on is not easy and having only 4 very tall gears makes keeping it on boost tricky. My friend swears that once on boost there is very little that can stay even remotely close though.

Anyhow, I thought you might like to know my impressions.

Richard
 
ORIGINAL: Richard Bernau


Anyhow, I thought you might like to know my impressions.

Richard

Richard many moons ago I got the offer to drive a friend 200 odd miles in an 88 Turbo 4 speeder. After just 10 minutes driving the car I knew it wasn't for me for all the reasons you have stated.

At the time I was on my 3rd 911 an 84 3.2 Carrera Cab and it was so much more fun to drive and one always had power to hand no matter which gear or whatever revs you found yourself at, unlike the Turbo.

In 1989 I bought a brand new Speedster which being Turbo Chassis/Body based had all the disadvantages such as heavier slower steering, and never felt as good a drive as the narrow bodied Carrera's of same era.
 
The 930 I drove was standard but for a free flow exhaust. It is nicely tuned so I would guess very close to spec horsepower and driving characteristics.

I forgot the best thing. It has a free flow exhaust and runs nice and rich so on overrun it goes pop,pop,pop,pop,pop. Any lift has this effect. Very cool.

Richard
 
It may have more to do with a bar not 100yds from ur place of work, i ve just left, Richard ,but u stirred some very mixed memories for me ................................i owned an original 3 0 litre for about 10 years culminating in an engine with over 1 0 bar boost,all the things u said rang true ,enormouse urge when it came alive but on 4 speed box cud nt produce decent times even with long straights at Goodwood...............of course no sticky tyres! I am surprised u mentioned the brakes so fondly ,often considered the Achilles heel,as u found if properly cared for very sound. In its day though there was very little u could drive to work ,Europe and home again in such comfort with such amazing performance ..................................did nt have another Turbo for some years until notorious GT2 [slightly uprated] just demonstrates what another world has been developed ,no lag, perfect manners in all departments and other than errant radicals nothing to keep up !
 
3.0 litre Turbo had 911S Aluminium calipers and little discs. 1978 onwards 930s had (essentially) 917 brakes - nothing wrong with them stoppers.
 

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