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Can enebody help, i have a 1986 944 lux, it runs and starts fine on a daily basis, but if the car has not been used for 3-4 days it will not start at all, when i eventually get it to start is feels like there is fuel starvation, everytime i put my foot on the accelorator pedal the car cuts out and if i take my foot off the pedal it bursts into life again. Once the car has been run and i leave it for a few hours the car then starts and runs as normal ??????????

Regards Andy
 
my '86 lux almost does the same! will still start on the button but runs as you describe on its first outing. generally needs to have been left a week and it doesn't seem to like damp mornings, in particular, a bit like myself. My solution has been to use it daily and it's running fine but would love to know the answer if anyone can help.
 
Well i'd start with the fuel filter. They're cheap and easy to replace. It defo sounds like fuel starvation so i'd go down that route first. Maybe the pump's on the way out, maybe an injector is blocked, leak or blockage in the fuel line. Could be any of those but do the filter first and work from there.
 
An interesting problem this one...

In particular, I find it interesting that both cars in this thread are 86 cars.

The interesting thing about 86 cars, is they were sold with an interesting airflow meter and ECU package which were just for 86... The ECU change was just that 86 cars had a socketed chip for maps (85 had several socketed chips) in 87 the chip changed for a larger capacity one which held the maps and the software... More interesting was the airflow meter change.

In 87, BOSCH changed the design of the airflow meter slightly, partly due to unusually running problems, due to oxide forming betwen the wiper and the sprung loaded pickup which transmitted the signal level from the wiper to the socket.

So it could be that your suffering from this problem.. in which case, the addition of a wire to the AFM wiper assembly could solve the problem.

Other possible causes could be...

water contamination of your fuel tank... I have seen this before where the car will run fine if run daily, or after the first run following storage for a few days... addition of a fuel system stabiliser to your fuel often cures this. Often the real cause is a poorly sealing fuel filler cap, allowing rain water to enter the tank via the cap seal and capillary action.

Head gasket failure in minor levels can also do this.. where a small amount of coolant enters the bore while stored for a few days... which when run, fouls a plug or two... then when stopped, evaporates off due to the hot engine... if run again after an hour or two, there isnt coolant in the bore, the plug is no longer fouled, but if left for a few days the problem returns.... but in these cases the car also suffers from a mysterious coolant loss problem (often quite minor, but its there)

The last problem I have seen like this was due to a slightly leaky water pump, leaking at the pulley seal... again like the head gasket issue, leaks a little coolant into the belt cover when stored for a few days... once the engine is started, this coolant is whipped up into the distributor cap, causing all kinds of issues.. but once the engine bay warms up a bit, the coolant evaporates, and the problem goes away, unless the coolant has a chance to collect again, which takes a few days.. But again, this often is married with a coolant loss issue.

My money would be on the airflow meter though.
 
Many thanks for your observations. Car has been sitting on drive with flat o/s/r tyre since Saturday thanks to a 2 inch screw! Tyre 4000 miles young and unrepairable as damage right on the corner [:(] Black Circles should be delivering replacement tomorrow. Will see if symptoms return when we're back on the road. Meantime, I'll have to console myself with "the dark side", and use my new 996 C4[:D]
 
I know, I know, it's not a proper 911, it's not got a turbo and it's not air cooled... but, imho, a stunning piece of kit nonetheless. Car has 2 personalities, on the one hand, 3.6 litre engine very torquey making for easy progress, all the creature comforts of a modern car (I found 2 cupholders this weekend - why?) satnav/phone/heated seats/xenons/bose hifi etc On the other hand, put your foot down and it changes into a howling banshee, sucking in the scenery at a licence risking rate. Have to say, I love it.
 
I call that a bite! [:D]

I'm sure it is excellent in a lot of ways and only at the level of joking with you would I say anything negative. You make it sound a lot like my hearse (though quicker) however and I'm still trying to decide if a 964 is a bit too diluted as a 911 for my purposes. Mine isn't a Turbo either by the way, though it nearly was. I was going to order a supercharger soon, but it might have to wait a little longer as the hearse is running up its first big bill just now.
 
Definitely... but I'd been relying on you to know the cure to my 944's ills!

Having lived with the 996 for 6 weeks now, it is clearly in many respects a sanitised 911 experience but for my purposes that's not necessarily a bad thing. For the budget, there are some lovely "purer" 911s available but as a car to be used regularly come rain or shine, it works for me! I won't be using the cupholders though.
 

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