944 Turbo in classic cars.

[dj.brian]

Dont know if this is of any interest to anyone on here, but there is a 944 Turbo for sale on classiccarsforsale.co.uk for £4000 ono!.

Has nothing to do with me at all, dont know anything else about it either, just found it when searching on the site. Dont know how to post the link etc.

Just for info, looks quite cheap, maybe not a good thing!!!!

 

[ukmastiff]

I always like to look at the 944 Turbo's for sale , its almost a hobby in itself for me but a dangerous one ! as I would buy so thanks for the link []

It has been for sale elsewhere for months. On the face of it 4,000 isnt dear but you should expect the aircon to be working in my opinion so thats a good 500 quid plus due a proper service. A very similar 88 turbo was for sale 4 or 5 weeks ago for 4,000 with 'partial' history 150,000 miles and the aircon did work but you never know a car from an ad do you, this one could be a gem , maybe the other one was.

I bought a cracker of an 87 for a fair price so am happy for now , I do want another one or two though sad huh []

Cheers Mas

 

[Porkie1664]

This car was on advertised on Pistonheads before Christmas for £ 4800.
If its such a gem of a car, I would of thought it would have been snapped up by now.

But thats just my opinion!

 

[morris944s2john]

Christmas in the worst recession for "x" many years may explain why the car did not sell!

 

[JamesBall]

classiccarsforsale.co.uk f

There's another cheap one here:

http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/1417829.htm

 

[MarkK]

I reckon the turbo S on classic cars for sale for 4k is a great buy for someone,that will be gone soon i bet..

 

[Frenchy]

Theres another 87 turbo for sale £12995 hope he gets it and the prices should starting going up with ours, mind you itwould have to be A1 for that money.

 

[JamesBall]

ORIGINAL: MarkK

I reckon the turbo S on classic cars for sale for 4k is a great buy for someone,that will be gone soon i bet..

Sorry to dig up an old thread, by this car is now on sale for £3k. I got a few details from the seller:

"The car has not been serviced since 2008 other than an oil change by myself as the car has not been used since Sept 2009. Which is not Ideal.
The car does not have full service history there is a gap in the book history between 1990 and 2004 but there are plenty of receipts for this period.
There is some corrosion on the rear near side arch and around the left hand rear light. This has been treated but can be seen as bubbling below the paint work."

Even at £3k, this isn't going to be worth it, is it? By the time you have got it up to scratch, it is still going to have a very patchy service history and be impossible to sell on for decent money if and when the time comes.

I am trying to talk myself out of being interested in it

 

[ukmastiff]

To be honest I looked at buying that one as its even local to me & would be quite happy to buy it on condition with no proper history if the mileage was lower.

I think buying a 944 Turbo for 3000 or 3500 and spending 2,000 or 3,000 to do it up is fine 'if' you end up with something special or low mileage but that car has done a lot of miles and will soon be a 200,000 miler. Now I know some folk will immediately come on and say " oh but a 944 will do 250 to 350,000 no problem "
( where are all these 300,000 milers ) ? but high milers are only ever worth high miler money thats the way it is. Eventually the turbo, the radiator , alternator , stering rack & absolutely anything else you want to mention on a 200,000 miler plus will all start to go. My clutch master cylinder went today at 110,000 []

My car has a recent history carried out by an enthusiast owner not indies but he has kept receips for and documented/diaried every single thing he did so I was happy with it since its done 110,000 in 23 years. I paid less than 3,500 but it needs belts doing straight away and a few bits and will soon stand me in 4,500. Fair I think , until it blows up of course hehehehe

 

[edh]

Is that 3k car this one?

http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/1202149.htm

I think it started off around 6k some months ago? Looks like a non-sunroof shell? Nice CS wheels as well. Must be something horribly wrong if it doesn't sell for that money

 

[JamesBall]

Yes, that's the one.

Assuming the car also has rust sills, it seems to me that even at £3k it could easily/probably end up costing more than a lower mileage "sorted" example.

 

[edh]

Any "sorted " car will still cost you money - unless you're paying well over 10k for a fully re-built car like the one SimonP sold last year

I wouldn't assume the sills are rusty - the sills on my car of a similar age / mileage were fine. Does seem odd that it has stuck around for ages. No mention of clutch change.

 

[sulzeruk]

I bought a 1986 220 Turbo before Christmas. Needs a radiator recore and a few wee bits and pieces doing. brake pipes have seen better days but that is not much. History is very sketchy with not much at all apart from a new starter motor and a £2500 engine rebuild with new guides and valves. Also got new big end bearings and new rings. Has a good set of newish SP9000 Dunlops all round. Underneath is mint apart from the brake pipes and there are a nice new pair of 951 full driveshafts on the car with part labels still on. There is a small rust hole from where the car has been poorly repaired on the back panel. Car runs very well and drives fine, cost £1100.
Am working on this black 1987 at the moment. Car body wise is very good but was a bit tired mechanically with oil leaks, etc. Have done a fair bit of work on the car, it has 199,000 on the clock and I am sure will drive very well when off the ramp. It was purchased by the owner for a good price and all the money that has been spent on it with the work I have been doing will add to the value, I would say it is a £4K car now even with that mileage. List of jobs done are water pump, belts, new engine mounts, front engine seals, fix a leaky cam box, new ARB bushes, all new power steering hoses and 100 other small jobs that make a good car even better! It even has a working clock with backlight.
There are cheap cars out there, who cares about high mileage, the cars go on forever if well maintained and looked after, my mates 3.2 Carrera has 257,000 miles on it and drives like it has done 1/4 of that.
If I had the 3K, that would be parked up in my industrial unit now, show me another one for sale at 3K with MOT and tax,
Alasdair

 

[ukmastiff]

Every one sellig a high mmileage car says " they go on forever " but where are all these 300,000 milers ????

 

[edh]

There are a fair number hitting or over 200k now - not seen any near 300k yet, but you will. Seems to me the average mileage in the ads is creeping up. Mine was going well at 170k when I sold it - and I'd spent plenty keeping it maintained. It drove better than most 944 turbos, irrespective of mileage. I'm sure if you ran it for 2 or 3 years and didn't look after it, things would start to go wrong, but I see no reason why that car would be any the worse in 5 or 10 years time as long as you keep on top of any bodywork issues, replace worn / failed parts, and budget for the eventual bottom end re-build.

I don't think many of these cars do high annual mileages now - most of the high milers will have clocked up the first 100k pretty quickly on m-ways, then will have accumulated more slowly since then as they passed on to other owners.

 

[sulzeruk]

23 year old car at 200000 equals 8,700 miles a year, 300000 would be 13043 miles per year. A question for you Mas, how many 944 Turbos do you see with blown big end or bottom ends??? The 200,000 miler I am working on at the moment is untouched on the bottom end, the top end has a nice clean inside of the cam box. I would think with careful servicing, 400,000 miles is easily achievable before you need to go opening things up,
Alasdair

 

[DivineE]

Besides one scored bore caused by something getting into the oil my engine looked completely new at 82,000miles when it was apart. There were no signs of wear on any components. The thing looked barely run in

 

[edh]

When the headgasket was done at 170k, the bores on my car were spotless

 

[ukmastiff]

In answer to your question m8ee I never mentioned engines blowing ? , I was very specific in pointing out that its all the other items that wear out and for me it is ,mainly for that reason that high mileage cars dont fetch big money.

Baring in mind what you deal in your opinion and mine will never match entirely on this but that matters not after all as we are both entitled to one.

One thing is for sure high mileage cars of any make and model will not anywhere match the price of a low mileage car with a similar history no matter how much spin is spun.

Regards Mas

 

[sulzeruk]

I don't deal in anything Mas, I only have 4 cars lying at my industrial unit. I deal in making a few quid to pay the £300 a month rent on my premises keeping old 944s on the road and not charging people an arm and a leg for repairing them. I actually deal in motorcycle parts for 1960s Yamaha and Kawasaki bikes and also have a business selling parts for older railway locos! I am also a full time train driver.
Alasdair