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944 turbo inspection points

mr brightside

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hello, there's a 944 turbo on ebay i'm thinking of having a look at, the item number is 280306913804.
Can anyone give me any hints on what to look for on these cars or has anyone seen this particular car at shows or owned it etc. the reg is H955 VRC and it's ocean blue.
 
Hi,

On the 944 main page there's the option to set "display posts from last". Set this to at least 6 months, and read through!

Over the last year every part of the cars has been discussed at length, including many threads on the potential problems. It'll take a while to read through, but well worth the effort. [:)]
 
it did look a bit odd - I wonder why they fitted it like that?

mind you - it's a bit of a beast & for "dry roads only" [8|] - must be on P6000's [:D][:D]
 
Being as it's the subject of a "warn-off" in another thread and the dealer it's being sold through has been the subject of several such threads both here and on TIPEC I'd proceed with caution on that one.
 
There's pictures of the service history log in the listing and between 1999 and 2006 it did a mere 6000 miles, or did it? perhaps there's a zero lost to the sands of time there.
As for the "for dry roads only" i found that amusing too, all i can say is have a word with yourself mate.
 
Been back through the threads by about 4 months and almost launched my brew all over the keyboard [oh no, sugar!] laughing at a comment about Dubbers being like vultures hoovering up Porsche brakes on ebay! As a die hard Mk1 Golf GTI kinda guy all i can say chaps is...little brother is watching you...

Seriously now though, i read a post about the turbos having 'engine off' eleccy cooling pumps, can these be heard running?
 
The turbo's are water cooled and there is a pump which circulates water through the turbo for some time after the engine is switched off negating the need to sit on the drive for 30 secs or so to wait for the turbo to cool down before switching the engine off. You can hear the pump - it is very quiet so you have to listen out for it.
 
Mr B,
You should be avle to hear the turbo cooling pump running for 30 seconds or so after the ignition is switched off.
Apparently it is very common for these not to work and the owner not even notice.

Whilst I would be very reluctant to buy a car from this place I have to admit that really does look nice!
 
As Paul has said, there is no substitute for research, but this will at least give you a starter for ten:-

Bodywork - usual used car rules apply, look for even panel gaps (they should be even though not necessarily tight), signs of repair work and corrosion especially the sills, bottom edge of the front wings and around the rear wheel arches. Give the sills a knock with your knuckle and listen for changes in the sound along their length which might indicate dodgy filler repairs, give the under sill and wing plastic trims a firm wobble - especially the under-wing ones. They should be firm. If they wobble then it could be a sign that the fixing lugs and studs have corroded away. Open the front doors and remove the plastic vent you can see on the rear of the door frame. You can see down into the rear of the sill cavity. If there are signs of corrosion there then assume it is worse further down the sills. Other than that just use your common sense and look for the usual signs which might indicate bodywork problems or dodgy repairs. Finally check under the carpet in the boot, there should be a white sticky label with dot matrix characters on it. This is the car spec off the production line and lists the options, chassis number and other info. If it is not there it could mean the rear panel has been replaced after a rear shunt so query it or look through cars history for invoices from bodyshops. If it is there check the chassis number matches the chassis number on the bulkhead.

Look into the rear drivers side wheel arch and try to locate two metal pipes. These are the fuel pipes. If they look corroded/heavily pitted then they will most likely fail an MOT. Replacement with OEM pipes is very expensive but you can replace with flexi's which are much cheaper. This is becoming more common due to the age these cars are not reaching. Obviously not necessarily a show stopper but you need to go into this with your eyes wide open.

Mechanics - Not alot you can tell here unless you take it round to a specialists and pay for a proper inspection. Check for excessive smoke out of the exhaust, any strange noises coming from the engine, signs of mods. The rear transmission can make a noise like a bearing is going. You can usually hear it when ticking over in neutral and it quietens down/dissapears when you depress the clutch. This is fairly common and usually appears at quite low mileage and isn't necessarily a sign that the gearbox is shot so don't be alarmed. Also the gearbox can sound a bit whiney when driving, so again don't be too alarmed. However theengine should run smooth and pull well once the boost comes in.

NUMBER 1 GOLDEN RULE. CHECK FOR THE LAST TIMING BELT REPLACEMENT. SHOULD HAVE BEEN WITHIN LAST 40KMILES OR 4YRS. IF NO HISTORY OR IF OUTSIDE OF THIS THEN IF YOU ARE GOING TO BUY THE CAR CHANGE IT ASAP.

Obviously check for all the usual service/maintenance history. On old cars like these it may not be 100% complete but there should be enough recent history to give you the confidence the car has been looked after by the last owner or two.

Electrics - check they all work. They can be a real pain to track down problems and very expensive if you pay to have them repaired. A/C probably wont work and can be expensive to repair - however they tend to need charging every year so if the seller tries it on and says that is only needs filling then get him to fill it. It costs around £50 for a fill and if he's serious about selling the car he'll pay for that to sell a fully functioning car and prove it works. If he wont agree to that assume he's lying and then assume the car is a dog and walk away. You don't want a pup of a turbo on your hands. It will ruin you. If he's honest and says it doesn't work then its upto you assuming the rest of the car is OK, but obviously take that into account if you make an offer on the car. You never know it might be a cheap fix.

Clutch - these are quite heavy anyway compared with modern cars but they do get heavier as they wear. Also they can feel 'notchy' at the biting point when they get heavily worn. This is where the rivets fixing the friction material starts to bite into the driven plate. It's difficult to assess whether or not the weight of the clutch is heavy or not if you're not familiar with 944's already. A clutch replacement is circa 10Mh and £500 for parts so not cheap.

I think i'll stop there or this will turn into a thesis, but I think i've covered most of the main points. At the end of the day treat this as you would any other 20yr old car - with great caution. Also bank on having to spend £1k - £1.5k on various odds and sods in your first year.

Good luck.


 
nice one sawood12 thanks, there was a couple of tips in there that were great especially the one about being able to see into the sills through that vent, i have a 924 and it never occured to me. Glasgow is a long way to go but i may go anyway just to go through the motions and get a good look at one, i also emailed the seller about the mileage discrepancies in the service history.
thanks again.
 
ORIGINAL: mr brightside

nice one sawood12 thanks, there was a couple of tips in there that were great especially the one about being able to see into the sills through that vent, i have a 924 and it never occured to me. Glasgow is a long way to go but i may go anyway just to go through the motions and get a good look at one, i also emailed the seller about the mileage discrepancies in the service history.
thanks again.

Why travel a long way to see a moody car ?, Gary on here is selling a turbo that seems to be a straight car, it was next on my list to view when I bought mine and I considered plenty [:D].
 

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