944 turbo vs stock auto twin turbo supra
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Do you have an ounce of taste in your body, and do you value any form of driving finesse at all? 944's have taste and cachet. Supra's are the greatest aspiration of a large number of chavs (as the aftermarket scene in bling <vomit> wheels, huge <vomit><vomit> spoilers and bangin' - innit- sound systems prove).
Simply put, are you a driver, or are you a poser? Do you make your money honestly, as most people do, or do you sell recreational pharmaceuticals for a living and enjoy the attentions of your 12 year old girlfriend?
If you can live with the social opprobrium that comes with driving the automotive equivalent of herpes, then you may be interested in the performance comparison. I, for one, could not and therefore am not ...
Oli.
Simply put, are you a driver, or are you a poser? Do you make your money honestly, as most people do, or do you sell recreational pharmaceuticals for a living and enjoy the attentions of your 12 year old girlfriend?
If you can live with the social opprobrium that comes with driving the automotive equivalent of herpes, then you may be interested in the performance comparison. I, for one, could not and therefore am not ...
Oli.
sawood12
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At a guess I think the Supra might be torquier than the 944 as it has 6 cylinders but I think the handling of the 944 might cancel out any straight line speed advantage you might have. I also get the impression the Supra is probably considerably heavier than the 944. I've not driven one but the interior is certainly plush with lots of the usual toys that we've come to expect in Japanese cars that all add to the weight. I would imagine the wiring loom on a Supra is like the trunk of a North American Redwood in comparison.
Hilux
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I reckon about 250 - 300 kilos heavier so when you work out power to weight ratios [8D] It is estimated that a 50kg reduction is worth 10 bhp so the 320bhp supra is losing `say` 50-60 bhp and on that basis is about the same as the 250 bhp 951.
Note the weights of some of the 911 porkers these days [8D]
Phil,btw it is opprobium.
Crikey - that's a bit harsh Oli!
I thought he was asking which one would outperform the other not which one he should choose. I've got an image of you vomitting over chavved out Supras now! []
Thanks - It is now edited for correctness.
Harsh? The question was akin to asking for the relative nutritional values of beluga caviar and a Big Mac. Or the vital statistics of Audrey Hepburn and Jade Goody. Or the quality of the nightlife offered by Monte Carlo and Butlins.
Harsh? Completely far, I think you'll find.
Oli.
I quite like supras and have considered one - but they weigh more and dont have the delicate handling balance of a 944. I think brakes are also a bit small for repeated use though some imports have bigger ones. They have very strong engines and can produce big chunks of power with more boost.
So depends on the race as to who would win. 10year old untouched supra more likely to be closer to factory power than a standard 20 year old 944
Tony
So depends on the race as to who would win. 10year old untouched supra more likely to be closer to factory power than a standard 20 year old 944
Tony
pauljmcnulty
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Exactly, Oli. I'd fully agree with you that a weekend in a chalet with Jade and a Big Mac would be good enough for us! None of that fancy stuff for the 944 massive...[
]:MakesMentalNoteToNeverTalkToA944OwnerAgain,NotVisitThisForumAndTryToWinTheORIGINAL: pauljmcnulty
Exactly, Oli. I'd fully agree with you that a weekend in a chalet with Jade and a Big Mac would be good enough for us! None of that fancy stuff for the 944 massive...[
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DivineE
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I love the responses but as for your original question. Standard car vs standard car they are (at least to the accuracy of an eye) absolutely dead even. I could very slowly gain a little on the automatic expecially in 4th and 5th gear (could be he was breaking the air for me) but up to 3rd they are a dead heat and there wasn't an inch to be gained or lost.
Ben
Ben
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.....I'd fully agree with you that a weekend in a chalet with Jade and a Big Mac would be good enough for us! None of that fancy stuff for the 944 massive...[
Speak for yourself "McN".
I'd rather do unpleasant things to my dangly sphericals with a sharpened pencil then spend any time with Jade Baddie. While a Big Mac might not be quite so high on my obnoxiometer it still isn't something I would eat by choice.
I'm pleased that we are now getting some slightly more reasoned comparisons between a prime example of German engineering and some cheap far eastern copy though.
pauljmcnulty
Active member
I was being ironic......[&:]
Can I borrow your obnoxiometer sometime?
924nutter
PCGB Member
From personal knowledge, the engineering on the Supra is suspect.
Two guys at work have Supras.
"J's" had a split intercooler and was loosing boost from under the front wing
"N's" had on oil filter relocation kit fitted and the accessability of the original is dire;
except that the kit was fitted incorrectly and all the oil was sucked out of the sump; Once it had been established that the fitting company was at fault, the aforementioned company was left with a large bill for the rebuild of "N's" engine.
Don't be mesmerised by the twin turbo nomenclature. The two turbochargers work in different ranges, the smaller of the two spooling up quickly, low down, to illiminate turbo-lag, as far as possible.
I personally don't like the styling of the Supra.
It's a bit, no a lot, like comparing chalk and cheese.
Two guys at work have Supras.
"J's" had a split intercooler and was loosing boost from under the front wing
"N's" had on oil filter relocation kit fitted and the accessability of the original is dire;
except that the kit was fitted incorrectly and all the oil was sucked out of the sump; Once it had been established that the fitting company was at fault, the aforementioned company was left with a large bill for the rebuild of "N's" engine.
Don't be mesmerised by the twin turbo nomenclature. The two turbochargers work in different ranges, the smaller of the two spooling up quickly, low down, to illiminate turbo-lag, as far as possible.
I personally don't like the styling of the Supra.
It's a bit, no a lot, like comparing chalk and cheese.
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