944S2 Front discs and pads, recomendations

[nick3814]

The front discs on my S2 will need changing shortly and I wondered if there were any recommendations out there for none standard items which cost a similar amount to the regular discs and pads? We have a good relationship with our OPC up here so I was going to source them from there but thought maybe a set of crossed drilled discs and uprated pads may be worth considering and the costs involved.

Any suggestions

Cheers

 

[zcacogp]

I think a lot depends upon your budget and what you want to do with it (daily driver vs. balls-to-the-wall track weapon.) The general advice is to avoid zimmerman disks like the plague, and buy anything else in preference.

I did mine about 6 months ago with ATE disks and Mintex pads. It's a daily driver, and seems to be bedding in nicely. (I was skeptical at first, but have driven a couple of other cars recently which I knew to have 'good' brakes and realised that actually my S2 stops pretty damned well.)

Disks were from Bert Gear, pads were from GSF.

ETA: If you are fitting them yourself, there is a risk of getting them squiff and having serious brake vibration as a result. I have a post on here somewhere about it ... search is your friend (I've had a few too many belgium beers at the moment to even find the search button, let alone use it ... )


Oli.

 

[Fen]

ORIGINAL: zcacogp
(I've had a few too many belgium beers at the moment to even find the search button, let alone use it ... )

That sort of post always catches me by surprise, reading it at my desk on a lunchtime. Funny old thing the time difference.

Anyway it's too early to go off topic, so I concur with Oli; don't buy Zimermann but anything else is fine. I wouldn't necessarily bother with cross drilled unless you really want to looks as they probably won't make much difference in road use and they are liable to crack. If you do go drilled then it might be worth getting them from an OPC for the 2 year warranty, although I confess I don't know if the OPCs do drilled versions in the S2 fit.

 

[rd944]

my zimmerman discs are fine [8|]

only done a couple of hundred miles on em though ..

whats the problem with them ? easy to warp ?

 

[Fen]

Yep, warp for a pastime and also the bells rust if you don't paint them. Painting is easy enough but the other brands are coated so why buy yourself the grief?

 

[944 man]

Rusty and warped? This must be a conversation about Zimmerman discs? Id suggest using ATE: theyre far, far better quality and theyre cheaper for some applications (3,000cc 930; 2,700cc & 3,000cc 911; 2,500cc 944 off the yop of my head, but likely others too)...

Simon

 

[zcacogp]

ORIGINAL: Fen

That sort of post always catches me by surprise, reading it at my desk on a lunchtime. Funny old thing the time difference.

Anyway it's too early to go off topic ...

Fen,

It's never too early to go off topic. In much the same way as it's never too early to start drinking. I bet you have experienced a decent quantity of Belgium beer by lunchtime on more than once occasion previously! Doesn't half leave you feeling rough the following day tho'. But then I guess that a beer called 'Satans Gold' is likely to have a downside somewhere ... I think I've just found it.

>SlinksOffToADarkerRoom<


Oli.

 

[rd944]

ORIGINAL: Fen

Yep, warp for a pastime and also the bells rust if you don't paint them. Painting is easy enough but the other brands are coated so why buy yourself the grief?

fair enough .. they are rusting as I type ..

as for warping .. they've not been used in anger yet.. we'll see.

 

[ashley]

ORIGINAL: nick3814

The front discs on my S2 will need changing shortly and I wondered if there were any recommendations out there for none standard items which cost a similar amount to the regular discs and pads? We have a good relationship with our OPC up here so I was going to source them from there but thought maybe a set of crossed drilled discs and uprated pads may be worth considering and the costs involved.

Any suggestions

Cheers

Nick mine need renewing too so was going to go down the opc route, may get even better discount for two sets,[]

 

[nick3814]

Now that sounds like a plan mate []

 

[James_G]

I have read good things about Sebro disks on some of the other Porsche models as well as the 944, and as for pads, it's either Pagid, or Mintex.

I await with interest to hear what you choose, as I'll probably need to do this soon too.

 

[Big Dave]

Sebro are good discs.. In fact they are the supplier to Porsche themselves..
Try giving Euro car parts a call. They deal with Sebro. But be ready for an aswer like " yes you can have a right hand discs, but sorry no left hands,weve been waiting for them for over 6 months".......
They are cheaper than an OPC. Thats if they any in stock...[8|][8|][8|].
DONT,DONT, DONT, fit Porsche pads. theyl grind + squeel like pig...
Now did you know, the Porsche supplied pad is either Pagid OR Textar...
If its a daily driver, then you wont go wrong with, and i cant believe im saying this,,,, BUT,,,, EBC greenstuffs..
Ide NEVER EVER use them on track , But for general daily driver where you bobing around town etc, there ok. Low on dust, quiet.. etc etc ...
Now for serious track use, then get a set of Pagid Blues OR Oranges....
Happy braking..

 

[Fen]

EBC greens used to be low on dust, until they changed them. Now there is no point using them at all. They are also thinner than other pads as in they have less meat on them.

 

[Big Dave]

Fair enough.
Its a while since i used a set. Town work only....[]

 

[Fen]

Actually, it's a couple of years since I had some also so to be fair they might have changed again and after posting I actually thought maybe you had had them more recently than I had.

I put them in my 530d as it was a daily driver with 15-spoke wheels and I thought they'd reduce the cleaning job. It was someone else who pointed out how much thinner than stock they were but I could see for myself how little different they were to the previous pads in terms of dust, which was disappointing as I used them some time before and they were brilliant in that regard.

As an aside that car also had 2 sets of Zimmermann front disks which warped (second set were warranty replacements for first) and were then replaced with a pair of Brembos (at my cost, though I could have had more Zimmermann for free on warranty again) which were fine when subjected to exactly the same usage profile, which is largely why I say Zimms warp.

 

[Diver944]

I have 2 year old EBC Greens on my S2 and whilst they are not as dust free as they were a few years ago they are still cleaner than other pads. For road use they are perfect, squeal free and good value for money

 

[MarkK]

I have just started running EBC greens and EBCs own grooved discs on my 205 gti,much better than the standard pug fitment[]

 

[sawood12]

I'd stick with stock unless you are tracking alot (and for the track Performance Friction seem to be the only things worth considering). I've tried EBC Reds, which were dangerous, and now have EBC Yellows which are better but still not great. The problem with 'upgraded' aftermarket pads is that you are always making a compromise which means they are not as good for normal road use - they'll either be noisier, dustier, worse cold performance, greater wear rate, chew your disks up quicker etc. The OEM pads are the best compromise for normal road use and are more than capable of taking a trackday or two as long as you're not some sort of super trackday warrior. I'm going stock next time round and if I find the limits on track i'll get PF pads and replace for trackdays.

Sebro discs are reported to be the same as OEM. I don't know about that but others' reckon that is the case and Sebro users don't seem to report as many issues (if any at all) as Zimmerman users. The only doubt in my mind is that just because Sebro might supply Porsche doesn't mean the aftermarket disks are identical to OEM ones, the ones manufactured for Porsche could be made to Porsche specific specifications or design. Apparently Porsche have a patent out on their calipers so Brembo only manufacture calipers for Porsche to their design and specification. Anyhow i've got stock disks now, I got them from the OPC who just happened to be doing a discount on brake stuff at the time so they cost less than the aftermarket stuff. Always worth a ring around the OPC's, you never know what they've got on sale.

 

[Peter Empson]

ORIGINAL: sawood12

I'd stick with stock unless you are tracking alot (and for the track Performance Friction seem to be the only things worth considering). I've tried EBC Reds, which were dangerous, and now have EBC Yellows which are better but still not great.

That mirrors my experience of the EBC's too, in fact I've got some nearly new ones (possibly both for front 250T calipers in both colours) that I can bring to the next meet if anyone wants them.

I swear by Porterfield pads which as far as I'm aware are similar in design to the Performance Friction ones - they are simply leagues ahead of any pad I've ever tried for road and track. No fade whatsoever, excellent feel, bite and power. Although disc wear rates, dust and noise will mean they're not for everyone.

 

[Big Dave]

I guess some of you didnt read my post...
In it , it said, DONT,DONT,DONT fit Porsche pads.
They WILL grind + squeel.. maybee not at first, but once bedded in they WILL defo grind + it feel like your discs are worn out...Trust me, ive been there , as many others have...Ive even had disscusions with a few reputable indies about these "Porsche" pads, + they said the same.. Grind there "nuts" off....But they still fit them...
If you do fit them, dont come back + ask why are my discs,s / pads grinding...Youve been told...

I mentioned EBC,s [Greens],for ROAD use ONLY....No grinding, minimal dust, + good cold bite...+ reasonable cost...Ive found the Reds to be Totally Rubbish..

Personally i use Pagid Blues, or Oranges on track.. I find them fabulous....Yes they are dusty, and do squeel a bit round town, but then the car ISNT used primarily for that...[ Track "warrior"]....