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roccogman

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Good morning,

I am looking at buying a 964 Carrera 4 Cabriolet, 7 owners, full Porsche service history, 116,000 miles w electric roof and tear drop wing mirrors. Its a 1990 911.

I was wondering what kind of price I should be looking at, its on the market w a small dealer.

Please let me know if you need any other info!

Many thanks
R
 
Hiya - I have the same but a bit younger - I guess the dealer will be after £13,000 to make a comfortable profit if in decent nick (roof for example) and with some sort of warrantee. Just a guess though. Do tell me what price he has on it now.
Best
Des
 
Hi Des

We haven't got to the warantee yet, but around £13,000 is right (he's dropped it from £14,000) which it was originally on for.

I'm just having a look around Piston Heads now to see what else is on the market. My only concern is that 116k miles seems like rather a lot and I don't want to have too many large bills on the other side of the deal for parts etc.

Does this mileage seem quite high? One Porsche friend owner reassured me that they go on to 250k but I thought I should take that prediction w a pinch of salt!

This is the vehicle:
http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201031365218574/sort/priceasc/usedcars/make/porsche/postcode/sw64lz/page/1/radius/1500/keywords/964%20carrera%204?logcode=p

I also just spotted this one:
http://www.andrew-jackson.uk.com/showroom/id=102

Thank you
 
Neither of the ads mention whether or not the engine has been rebuilt. At those mileages it may be on the cards sooner rather than later, this could mean a very expensive bill although once done, it ought to go one for another 100K miles.

Make sure the engine is BONE dry if they have not been rebuilt and get it inspected, especially seeing as these cars are not for sale at recognised specialists. Early cars are generally considered to be more at 'risk' than later cars.

Personally I would not have brought a car with an engine that had not been rebuilt, but there are many on here who have & tackled the work themselves (there is a picture thread on an engine rebuild on here I think).
 
Dont forget to have a PPI (Pre Purchase Inspection) carried oout by a Porsche specilaist prior to purchase.

Also, check the most expensive items are OK or have been replaced (suspension, brakes, top-end engine re-build etc etc).

Chris
 
116K for this age of car is fine .

If it has never been rebuilt at this mileage then it might be on the journey to have some work soon...

250K is possible but it will need work to get the.

Also never buy a Porsche even a 964 if you want cheap motoring, they eat money .....even DIY !!

Its a car that is now +/- 20years old so items will degrade , be worn etc etc

I spend a fortune on my 964 (phew my wife doesn't read this !!!) and labour is free and the parts are not cheap.
Last weekend I fitted a new cat and a few odd bits & also did a 24K full engine and gearbox service, and it cost me in parts with discounts at Porsch and indies approx £1,000 !! and the 2 days of labour was free as its my DIY hobby and I have the skills and time.

Thats why good 964's are getting harder to find as they cost a lot of money to run them in A1 condition .
You will need easily approx £5K after you buy one to tidy it and thats a starter....keep your eyes open.

After 6 years of owner ship and thousands in £ and hrs spent its still worth what I paid for it and I have zero deprecation.
So what you loose on a "normal cars" deprecation you have to spend on the 964 to run it yearly.
 
ORIGINAL: iangray100

I spend a fortune on my 964 (phew my wife doesn't read this !!!) and labour is free and the parts are not cheap.
Last weekend I fitted a new cat and a few odd bits & also did a 24K full engine and gearbox service, and it cost me in parts with discounts at Porsch and indies approx £1,000 !! and the 2 days of labour was free as its my DIY hobby and I have the skills and time.

Don't worry Ian.....mum's the word [;)]
 
If there's one think that really irks me, its the above a 100k it must be due a rebulid. FFS why. Mine pulls pretty well as others who have been with me testify, and its at 112k. No intention of a rebuild......

come on get real.

Kevin[8|]
 

ORIGINAL: kevin

If there's one think that really irks me, its the above a 100k it must be due a rebulid. FFS why. Mine pulls pretty well as others who have been with me testify, and its at 112k. No intention of a rebuild......

come on get real.

Kevin[8|]

Never a truer word spoken in a long, long time!!!

Regards

Dave
(with 126K on the clock and still pulling strong!!!)
 

I bought my 964 four years ago, since then I've done around 8000 miles in it, in that time I've had no major problems with it though recently I've spent around £1000 recently doing a big service and replacing some parts, oil cooler £250, caps and rotors £120 and various other bits and pieces, and like Ian I do this work myself so have probably saved a grand in garage bills.

You have to budget a couple of grand a year in running costs, it may not cost that depending on condition but easily could and more if you have to rebuild the engine or gearbox.

As far as the engine rebuild myth goes, 100,000 is not a mileage that will definatelly require a rebuild, but many have had to have this done due to either bad oil leaks or for other reasons, Mine has had a full top end rebuild and still leaks slightly, I'm not particularly bothered about that just now as it's not getting any worse and it doesn't burn oil.

I would advise you to get it checked by a Porsche specialist, get the engine compressions checked, this should highlight the overall condition of the engine. When I bought mine I did so knowing that one day I may end up with a very large bill if something major went wrong, touch wood so far it hasn't. But these are not cars which can be run on a shoestring budget, not for an extended period of time anyway.

Some people buy these cars and can't really afford to maintain them properly, these are the ones to watch out for, go through the service history carefully.


 
A compression test will not give you the right information, a leakdown test will.

The predominant wear on these engines is valve guide wear, when this happens the seats wear and then they allow leakage, a standard compression test is not good at finding these types of issues, a leakdown test is far more reliable at finding them. but as ever get a good indy to do them with everything at the right temperature.

oil leaks, pah, give the thing a good run. Mine is very slightly moist, but if taken to Le Mans every year will be bone dry for a couple of months, and this shows they should be used, and used properly. Get one with a good service history, well maintained and loved regardless of mileage, then have a contingency fund for the nice to haves, and the oops didn't see that coming.

Kevin
 

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