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981 Electric Parking Brake - your views

Cybalist

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I recently test-drove the 2014 981S PDK and noted the electric parking brake which was a bit of a surprise, wasn't expecting that!

Can I have your views as 981 owners as to whether you love / hate the electric parking brake?

How does it work at traffic lights / on hills etc?
 
Having driving a few cars with electronic parking brakes and various "automatic / tiptronic" drives, I can confirm it works fine in combination with the PDK, as in pretty much ignore electronic parking brake and just drive car..

Never even use the parking brake when in the garage as I just leave it in P
 
Parked a loaner 981 on my fairly steep drive, put it in P, got out - and only then remembered the handbrake!
 
I rarely use the parking brake. Never had to use it in normal driving. Not needed for hill starts for example.

I only tend to use it if I'm leaving the car parked on a slope.

Hope that helps.

Chris
 
So what happens at traffic lights and junctions? When I drove the 981 PDK I found that the car crept forwards when I took my foot off the break in the same way my 987 does. That implies you would have to keep your foot on the brake the whole time, and you can't move your foot over to the gas ready to get away quickly. Or does the electric brake have some kind of mode that prevents creep?
 
I had a 981 Cayman loaner, manual with EPB, when mine went in for service.

It was a little embarrassing at the petrol station on my way back to the OPC.

That said, we'll only now have PDK I expect so it shouldn't be much of an issue.

David
 
I'm struggling to wrap my head around how you stop PDK creep at junctions and traffic lights without having to keep your foot on the brake pedal the whole time.
 

ORIGINAL: Cybalist

I'm struggling to wrap my head around how you stop PDK creep at junctions and traffic lights without having to keep your foot on the brake pedal the whole time.

I keep foot on foot brake as if you lift off the "auto start / stop" restarts the engine

If I was to be stopped at night at a junction for more than a few mins I would consider using the electronic stop brake out of courtesy for the driver behind, to save them staring at the 3rd brake light
 
Had a Merc and when you came to a stop if you pressed down hard on the footbrake it would hold ...if you just pressed it lightly the car will creep forward once you took your foot of the brake pedal ....it is annoying at night when you have people behind you with your brake lights full on, then I would use the park brake if on a hill if on level ground but it in P


The Spyder has the good old fashion ratchet type hand brake[;)]
 
Nerves tried mine myself, catches me out when the dealer puts it on after a recall or a service though , not as good as my o,d Bmw which automatically releases it .
 

ORIGINAL: gdavison


ORIGINAL: Cybalist

I'm struggling to wrap my head around how you stop PDK creep at junctions and traffic lights without having to keep your foot on the brake pedal the whole time.

I keep foot on foot brake as if you lift off the "auto start / stop" restarts the engine

If I was to be stopped at night at a junction for more than a few mins I would consider using the electronic stop brake out of courtesy for the driver behind, to save them staring at the 3rd brake light

You'd have thought that with the auto stop/start function selected, provision would have been made to extinguish the brake lights automatically when the car is stationary.

It's clear from the posts that the electronic handbrake has been provided with PDK users in mind. I've yet to try a manual 981 (they seem to be as rare as hen's teeth) but I use the handbrake regularly on my manual 987.2 Cayman and would undoubtedly find the location and operation of the electronic handbrake very inconvenient.

Jeff
 
The electric handbrake, in conjunction with PDK, on the 981 works well. First come to terms with the basics, the operation of the static Off/On function is counter intuitive, you push the switch for On (engage) and pull it for Off (disengage). Dynamically, ie pulling away, it disengages automatically and is better for quick starts than the old fly off handbrake. For longer stops, with hot brakes, I engage Park.

If you really like to use the stop-start function, ignore the handbrake and engage Park via the PDK gear selector. The reason for this is that when you stop with the foot-brake and engage the handbrake releasing the foot-brake automatically restarts the engine. Whereas the PDK park function maintains the engine in it "fuel saving" off mode till you re-engage the foot-brake, re-engage drive and lift of the foot-brake. It sounds odd but think about it and the safety implications are obvious. However, the benefits of the stop-start system are less obvious and I mostly turn it off.

If you engage the handbrake and turn the engine off (eg whilst parking) or engage the handbrake with the engine off, to release the brake the drivers door needs to closed, the drivers seat occupied, the seat belt on and the engine running, before it can be disengaged.

Engaging the handbrake when on the move is similar to a conventional handbrake with the added advantage that, it does not lock on but only stays engaged as long as you Push the poorly positioned switch and are still moving. If you have the habit pulling on the conventional handbrake as you are just stopping, the electric handbrake will cure you of this since it does fully and rapidly engage if activated if you are moving very slowly (ca less than 2 mph).

Other than that it's not a problem and as stated by other posters I mainly ignore it and, like any mechanically handbrake equipped vehicle with an automatic style of gear selector with transmission locking function, I mostly use Park.

FBR

 

ORIGINAL: Cybalist

So what happens at traffic lights and junctions? When I drove the 981 PDK I found that the car crept forwards when I took my foot off the break in the same way my 987 does. That implies you would have to keep your foot on the brake the whole time, and you can't move your foot over to the gas ready to get away quickly. Or does the electric brake have some kind of mode that prevents creep?
Train your left foot to use the brake-I never use my right foot for braking in my Steptronic BMW-also good for fast getaways
 

ORIGINAL: Cybalist

I'm struggling to wrap my head around how you stop PDK creep at junctions and traffic lights without having to keep your foot on the brake pedal the whole time.

Would you keep your 987 in drive and use the handbrake?

It's not something I even consciously think about in my Cayman to be honest, I have no problem with hill hold or the electronic handbrake, you soon get used to it.
 
Yes I would leave my 987.2 in Drive and use the handbrake.

I think I'm going to stick with this car!
 

ORIGINAL: rob.kellock

Would you keep your 987 in drive and use the handbrake?

It's not something I even consciously think about in my Cayman to be honest, I have no problem with hill hold or the electronic handbrake, you soon get used to it.

Couldn't agree more - soon get used to it.
 
I've got a 6MT, I must confess to not being a fan of the electronic handbrake, it's a real ball ache as far as I'm concerned. Call me a luddite if you like, but it's just wrong.Rant over, other than that love the car.Just need to get PSE fitted and I will be content.
 

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