987.2 and E10 fuels
- Thread starter Chappelle
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Sorry if this has been hammered out before, but where does my 2009 987.2 stand on resisting the ravages of E10 or E5?
Likely day to day no difference. Personal choice and always your car your rules but I try and stay away from high ethanol fuels if I can. Certainly if I was going to park the car up for a few months then I would seek a tankful of low or no ethanol.
according to the government website we are all “good”, but me I have always tried to stay away if I can.
of course on a rainy night where the choice is a tank full of 95 ron e10 looks a much better option than the bus.
according to the government website we are all “good”, but me I have always tried to stay away if I can.
of course on a rainy night where the choice is a tank full of 95 ron e10 looks a much better option than the bus.
Thank you both.
The car is used about every week or 2 weeks unless the roads are snow or thick salt deposit.
A friend today said cars before 2011 were susceptible to the effects of ethanol, after 2011 much better.
Thinking more about deterioration of rubber fuel hoses in particular.
I have 2 Esso stations close to me with ethanol free fuel.
The car is used about every week or 2 weeks unless the roads are snow or thick salt deposit.
A friend today said cars before 2011 were susceptible to the effects of ethanol, after 2011 much better.
Thinking more about deterioration of rubber fuel hoses in particular.
I have 2 Esso stations close to me with ethanol free fuel.
I share the sentiment that ethanol is the work of evil but I suspect there’s not a whole bunch off difference in spec of rubber etc betweeen 2010 and 2011/12 model years.
I am more inclined to feel that 987 onwards is ok but given these can be now 16 year old then seals and hoses etc do age and e10 won’t have a positive effect - at best neutral.
aa I say. for me in any car I have owned I just try and keep the ethanol down over time just as I try and generally use “branded“
fuel rather than supermarket paraffin because the added detergents but the odd tank full of whatever doesn’t concern me.
I am more inclined to feel that 987 onwards is ok but given these can be now 16 year old then seals and hoses etc do age and e10 won’t have a positive effect - at best neutral.
aa I say. for me in any car I have owned I just try and keep the ethanol down over time just as I try and generally use “branded“
fuel rather than supermarket paraffin because the added detergents but the odd tank full of whatever doesn’t concern me.
Graham,
According to GOV.UK the official Porsche line is:
E10 petrol is cleared for use in Porsche vehicles with petrol engines since the 1998 model year and all Boxster models with petrol engines since the 1997 model year.
The Carrera GT is not cleared for use with E10 petrol.
Jeff
According to GOV.UK the official Porsche line is:
E10 petrol is cleared for use in Porsche vehicles with petrol engines since the 1998 model year and all Boxster models with petrol engines since the 1997 model year.
The Carrera GT is not cleared for use with E10 petrol.
Jeff
AndrewCS
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ETHANOL IN FUEL - YouTube
Hopefully, any ambiguity will encourage people to actually use their cars [
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From what I have read ... Shell Super Unleaded will remain @ 5% whilst (as noted above) Esso will be Ethanol free ...
Hopefully, any ambiguity will encourage people to actually use their cars [
] From what I have read ... Shell Super Unleaded will remain @ 5% whilst (as noted above) Esso will be Ethanol free ...
All good to read, esp the Gov / Porsche statement.
So, run the 987.2 on 99 octane Shell or Esso.
Used Shell for decades in almost all the petrol cars I've had.
Bit of a worry is the 1973 911 I have with a 1986 3.2 in it, all original 73 or 86 fuel hoses.
Engine been in the car since 1995 but Shell high octane fuels only used, ever.
I've used shell 95 octane in the 987.2 for the last year, runs great, but might be time not to be a cheapskate and try Esso.
So, run the 987.2 on 99 octane Shell or Esso.
Used Shell for decades in almost all the petrol cars I've had.
Bit of a worry is the 1973 911 I have with a 1986 3.2 in it, all original 73 or 86 fuel hoses.
Engine been in the car since 1995 but Shell high octane fuels only used, ever.
I've used shell 95 octane in the 987.2 for the last year, runs great, but might be time not to be a cheapskate and try Esso.
Graham,
Like you I run a 2009 987.2 on branded super-grade fuel where possible and would have no issues if I had to use E10 for some reason. I think that going forward there’s much more of an issue with the older air-cooled 911s like yours, and I’m not sure that there’s an alternative to swopping-out vulnerable parts which are susceptible to degradation like hoses and gaskets, assuming that’s possible.
Jeff
Like you I run a 2009 987.2 on branded super-grade fuel where possible and would have no issues if I had to use E10 for some reason. I think that going forward there’s much more of an issue with the older air-cooled 911s like yours, and I’m not sure that there’s an alternative to swopping-out vulnerable parts which are susceptible to degradation like hoses and gaskets, assuming that’s possible.
Jeff
If like me, your nearest is Sainsburys, looking good for Premium at 1% Ethanol as per http://www.ethanil.co.uk/league-table/
Put a tank of Esso zero ethanol through my old 911 with a stock 3.2 in it and all runs a treat. £1.46/ litre.
Will be the norm from now on, but any damage is now done I think?
Boxster will get it next to see how it is.
Will be the norm from now on, but any damage is now done I think?
Boxster will get it next to see how it is.
Clayton-tc
New member
In the Boxster 987.2 brochure it says -
"The new Boxster models are already designed to operate on fuels with an ethanol content of up to 10%"
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"The new Boxster models are already designed to operate on fuels with an ethanol content of up to 10%"
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