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dereksharpuk

dereksharpuk

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Having had a couple of 997 Cabs I obviously interested in the new 991 Cab. I have not driven it yet, but have the following comments based on other reports and my static impressions:

1. The hood is not totally covered when down. Pity.
2. It is not a retractable hard top. Pity.
3. The steering is rather vague, especially around the neutral area. Not good.
4. It looks fab, especially the interior. 10/10
5. It is very expensive. [:mad:]
6. It is big.

Given points 5 & 6, one wonders if a few will migrate back to Boxster. Having had 2 of each, I might well do that. After all, do I need to go fast? And I always have the Italian Mistress for the bling [:D]
 
ORIGINAL: dereksharpuk Having had a couple of 997 Cabs I obviously interested in the new 991 Cab. I have not driven it yet, but have the following comments based on other reports and my static impressions: 1. The hood is not totally covered when down. Pity. 2. It is not a retractable hard top. Pity. 3. The steering is rather vague, especially around the neutral area. Not good. 4. It looks fab, especially the interior. 10/10 5. It is very expensive. [:mad:] 6. It is big. Given points 5 & 6, one wonders if a few will migrate back to Boxster. Having had 2 of each, I might well do that. After all, do I need to go fast? And I always have the Italian Mistress for the bling [:D]
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Derek .. If you don't need the rear chairs watch this video and tell me why anyone needs a 991 Cab v 981 S IMO the design balance of the 981 is absolutely perfect and far less contrived looking than the 991 Cab [;)] I was under the impression both cars have almost solid folding panels hence there new neat taught look The interior on the 981 I think is much softer and sexier looking than the 991's It is tremendous value for money compared to the rest of the Porsche range It's the perfect size and power for todays world Enjoy the video [link=http://www.pistonheads.com/news/default.asp?storyId=25371]http://www.pistonheads.com/news/default.asp?storyId=25371[/link]
 
Totally agree with you Robert. And a brilliant video, it says it all. Perhaps I realy really should go back to my roots [:D]
 
I have only had 911s for about 28 years and feel a bit disloyal that I am even considering the gorgeous new boxster. My current 997s gen 2 cab cost me just short of 90k and in part exchange for a new 991scab have been offered 40k. A new similarly specd cab will cost north of 100k - my car has done only 10k miles and that makes it insane to even think of changing. However a well specd new boxster is going to cost about 60k. I think I will continue to enjoy my 997 and keep it into my and its dotage.
 
My very point. I actually think that Porsche are cutting of the hand that feeds them. I used to change every year (see below) and it cost me precious little, especially in the early days of Boxster. I weighed up parting with £5K or so for the benefit of having a newer, better Porsche (assuming I was going for like for like). Porsche loved me [:D] But now, to change is so much I don't purchase a new Porsche every year [:eek:] To offer just £40K for Jonathans lovely 997 Cab may be market forces at work, but why part with the best part of £60K to get more or less the same again? OK at £5K, not ok at £60K. So what is the result of all this? 1. Jonathan gets to keep a car he knows & loves, albeit with slightly higher running costs. 2. Porsche don't sell a car! Given that selling is their mission, perhaps they should think a bit harder.
 
Ok of course, though this debate is interesting to some, there is the rub! To some! Most of us are members of Porsche Club, arguably the finest car club on the planet. Most of our members could not possible afford to buy a 991, even if they wanted to. So they drive a humble 924, which incidently has at least one major advantage over a 991 (price), or the wonderful 3.2 Carrera. It would be fun to really compare a 991 with a 3.2 Carrera circa 1986. I would start with depreciation [:D] NO CONTEST!
 
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ORIGINAL: jonathanw I have only had 911s for about 28 years and feel a bit disloyal that I am even considering the gorgeous new boxster.
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I ran 911's x 5 from 1978-2003 and never felt disloyal when I switched from rear to the brilliant mid engine family member. In 1997 I started my love affair with Boxsters, as I no longer needed or used the 2 rear seats, and found the 2 seaters design the more sporty .... Currently on my 6th Boxster, a Spyder, and as Derek says the depreciation is probably going to help me [:D] stick with what I have and not upgrade for £30k+ today and possibly £40k+ in say 2 years time My ideal 981, a Spyder, hasn't been made yet and probably won't be for a long time to come if at all. So unless my current car feels like state of the ark compared to the 981 I shall keep my wallet firmly shut for now and carry on enjoying what I currently own
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ORIGINAL: dereksharpuk Having had a couple of 997 Cabs I obviously interested in the new 991 Cab. I have not driven it yet, but have the following comments based on other reports and my static impressions: 1. The hood is not totally covered when down. Pity. 2. It is not a retractable hard top. Pity. 3. The steering is rather vague, especially around the neutral area. Not good. 4. It looks fab, especially the interior. 10/10 5. It is very expensive. [:mad:] 6. It is big. Given points 5 & 6, one wonders if a few will migrate back to Boxster. Having had 2 of each, I might well do that. After all, do I need to go fast? And I always have the Italian Mistress for the bling [:D]
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Couple of points, Derek As you say you haven't driven it yet, but the steering is not vague. Different from the 997, yes, vague, no. It is a few centimeters longer than the outgoing model, but no wider and a bit lower. There has always been a substantial difference in price point between the Boxster and the 911 Convertible. You pays your money, as they say
 
Hi Peter, I make the point about the steering as just about all journalists have mentioned it. I have driven the 991, but not the Cab & must admit my sensitivity was insufficient to notice anything bad about the steering. But I'm just the messenger on this point. Yes, of course I know all about the historical price differentual between Boxster & 911. I have had a few of each down the years! But regardless of the history, a Boxster is still much better value than a 911. In the past, that has not mattered much, especially when my 205 bhp first Boxster was rather gutless; not a patch on a 996. But now, as the video above points out, the Boxster S is a mean beast and as fast as anyone would want. Well almost! [:D]. So why pay twice as much? Of course. money is always relative. If one is filthy rich, £95K is nothing. Why else would people pay £210K for a 458 Spider when £15K (with discount) will buy you a lovely MX5 [:D] You pays your money, as you quite rightly say.
 
Had a good drive in the Cab today. A manual version. Quite nice. I suppose you could say I damn it with faint praise..... It drove ok, and I failed to see what all the fuss was about regarding the steering; it was fine. The salesman I was with could not open the engine compartment and the hood kept stopping on selecting up or down on the key... a problem I had with my 997 Cab. But the car is still OLD FASHIONED [:D] No full post code! No Google Streets, no hard drive. And the electric handbrake is difficult to find, though I suppose one would get used to that. With the windbrake up the view to the rear was awful. Finally, the car did drive smoothly and the 7 speed gearbox was like silk. But I thought it was all a bit too smooth. Interestingly I could buy a good spec Boxster AND a Macan for less than a 991 Cab. At £105K, it is expensive.
 
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