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All-new 911 - first ride
30 June 2011
An all new Porsche 911 will be revealed later this year "" and Autocar joined the development team in South Africa to sample the car.

The new 911, codename 991, is only the third all new design in the car's incomparable 48 year history. The first of the three most critical departures between it and its forebears is that this is the first 911 to be built chiefly from aluminium.

See pics of the all-new Porsche 911

The second difference is that the wheelbase has been extended by a substantial (but currently secret) amount. Two-thirds of the extra space between the wheels is located behind the driver, although it remains a fundamentally two-seat car. Project manager Roland Achleitner insists the car's character and agility have not been compromised.

But if fiddling with a 911's wheelbase is courting controversy, changing the way it steers might be seen by purists as punching it in the face. The third reason this 911 is like no other before is that hydraulic power steering has been dropped for an electro-mechanical system.

Achleitner insists: "˜If you drove this car you would never know it did not have hydraulic steering. Believe me, I know how important this is."

The 991 is lighter than the car it replaces by dozens of kilos, despite bigger, heavier wheels, tyres and brakes and more robust crash structures. It's also very slightly lower.

But some things have not changed so much. While there is not a single interchangeable part in the suspension, the architectural concept remains the same. You'll find struts at the front and a multi-link arrangement at the back. Relative spring rates have been slightly increased while the damping has been backed off a little, in pursuit of better small bump isolation. The front track has been widened by a similar amount to that which helped transform the dynamic behaviour of the current 997 GT3 RS.

Read more about the Porsche 911 GT3 RS

Only the powertrain remains familiar, and even here there have been big changes. While the "˜S' continues to displace 3.8-litres, the standard car's capacity has been reduced to 3.4-litres. In fact its bore and stroke are identical to those of a Boxster S, though different cams and a new exhaust provide more power "" 350bhp at the moment, though homologation has yet to be completed. The power of the 3.8 rises to 400bhp and the rev limit of both engines increases by 200rpm to 7800rpm.

The PDK double clutch auto has been sharpened up again but it is the manual that might be introduced that breaks new ground. In effect it is a manually controlled single clutch version of PDK which means, for the first time in any manual production car I can think of, seven forward speeds. In fact the first six ratios are identical to the auto, though a slightly shorter, more sporting top gear is fitted.

The ramifications go far beyond the extra cog. This means the old gearbox is no more, so Porsche's Motorsport colleagues working on the next generation of GT3s down in Weissach have nothing to strap to the old race-based flat six that's powered all their cars since 1999. So this noble motor has been retired, presumably to be replaced by the somewhat simpler, cheaper, more modern and unrelated direct injection engine used by all other 911s. Quite what will be done to it for the new GT3 remains to be seen.

I jump into the passenger seat of the 3.8-litre "˜S' and exhort Herr Achleitner to drive me back down the mountain as fast as he possibly can. A quick glance around the interior reveals Panamera style and switches, providing a substantial step up in both quality and efficacy from the 997; then he's off.

More power and less weight means the old Carrera S's 0-62mph time of 4.7sec is going to be toast. Porsche hasn't done the numbers yet, but my money is on 4.5sec for the S and 4.8sec for the 3.4-litre car.

What I notice is the disconnect between the savagery with which the car attacks each corner and the almost complete tranquillity in the cockpit. What struck me most was how easy it appeared to drive the car on the limit, and how unflappable was its composure.

It seems to move the game on even from the lofty heights achieved by the 997, but if you're looking for me to deliver a definitive verdict from the passenger seat, you're asking the wrong bloke. It was a masterly performance, enough to make me desperate to find out more about what is, clearly, an extraordinary car and, I have little doubt, a great Porsche.

But is it still a 911? If it is, my sense is that it will be a rather different one "" even more capable, usable, spacious, comfortable and quiet. But whether this has been achieved at the expense of some of that magical 997 ability to make you feel hardwired into the road surface, it is simply impossible to say without a steering wheel in your hands.


http://www.autocar.co.uk/News/NewsArticle/AllCars/258004/
 
Cars will probably be in the UK by January.

Another group trip to Reading OPC may be scheduled soon after!
 
More spy shots:

http://www.insideline.com/porsche/911/2012/first-ride-2012-porsche-911.html
 
ORIGINAL: Alex L

Cars will probably be in the UK by January.

Porsche 911 prototype catches fire

New Porsche 911 prototype, set to debut at Frankfurt in September, bursts into flames.


A fire that started in the engine bay has destroyed a prototype for the all-new Porsche 911 cabriolet. The prototype was undergoing routine testing in Steinegg, Germany.

So intense was the fire that the car reportedly burnt through in 15 minutes. Chief commander of the Neuhausen Steinegg fire department Klaus Buchinger commented: "The car has burned like tinder."

The model has been transported back to Porsche's Weissach-based development centre to determine the exact cause of the fire.

No one was injured, but the fire could spell bad news for Porsche who will be keen to avoid a Ferrari 458-style debacle, comparisons to which are inevitable.



Read more: http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/news/autoexpressnews/269863/porsche_911_prototype_catches_fire.html#ixzz1RmwNvO2m

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ORIGINAL: daro911
So intense was the fire that the car reportedly burnt through in 15 minutes.
I guess if you're going to make the car "chiefly from aluminium" then you're going to get that!
 
So when Signore Rossi called round to Stuttgart with several containers of very cheap Italian glue nobody thought to ask their origin....?[:D]
 
Better for it to happen in development than in production, like with another car I could mention [;)]
 
Very true....it's probably just a split fuel / brake line or something.

This incident alone wouldn't put me off buying one. Remember the R8 V10 prototypes [&:]

Time to worry if on launch, fire-extinguisher is a no-cost option [:D][:D]
 
991 Turbo spyshots caught:

http://www.teamspeed.com/forums/997-996-turbo/61641-spied-2013-porsche-911-turbo-nuerburgring.html
 

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