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I had precisely this problem 3 years ago, coming from a hugely antisocial TVR Cerbera to the Dyson Special aka 993 Turbo.
Whilst all that plumbing will invariably mute the experience next to the " chainsaw wail" that characterises the classic 911 soundtrack, PCGB directed me in the direction of Tech9 who duly introduced me to the joys of a CarGraphic system.
Supposedly liberating an additional 22 bhp, this mod certainly turns the hoover whirr into something altogether more befitting the incredible performance on tap.
Good luck,
Simon.
Whilst all that plumbing will invariably mute the experience next to the " chainsaw wail" that characterises the classic 911 soundtrack, PCGB directed me in the direction of Tech9 who duly introduced me to the joys of a CarGraphic system.
Supposedly liberating an additional 22 bhp, this mod certainly turns the hoover whirr into something altogether more befitting the incredible performance on tap.
Good luck,
Simon.
m bannon
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I agree with Garyw, I have spent over 15,000 euro ( live in Ireland ) in the past 12 months on servicing, ok thats includes tyres and doing a few things not alltogether neccessary , the car is apsolutly concourse, pride n joy.
The engine is pretty much bullet proof.
my advice is history ,history , history.
The engine is pretty much bullet proof.
my advice is history ,history , history.
Dave
Moving to a 993 turbo is a quantum leap. You will be astonished at the urge provided by that turbine-like engine and the staggering roadholding available, but you will need to do regular trackdays to get a real feel for its abilities. Agree with the bulletproof engine description - mine has no oil leaks and there is none of the blue-cloud startup phenomenon you sometimes get with the older turbo.
This is the ultimate example of the classic 911 (apart from the rare GT2) and you would perhaps expect high cost maintenance. However I have only spent £2200 in the last three years, including about £750 on one item (refacing discs and renewing pads).Agreed I do less than 12,000 miles per annum, but one "oil service" per annum for two years then a bigger one the third year should keep your costs around my figure.
The clutch should last up to 75,000 miles provided you dont do too many drag races.
As already said, do the sort of checks necessary when you are buying a reasonably expensive car, although you could probably miss some of those out if you are buying from a known non-OPC dealer, because you should be offered a Porsche warranty in that case.
Go for it and let us know how you get on.
JohnC
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Moving to a 993 turbo is a quantum leap. You will be astonished at the urge provided by that turbine-like engine and the staggering roadholding available, but you will need to do regular trackdays to get a real feel for its abilities. Agree with the bulletproof engine description - mine has no oil leaks and there is none of the blue-cloud startup phenomenon you sometimes get with the older turbo.
This is the ultimate example of the classic 911 (apart from the rare GT2) and you would perhaps expect high cost maintenance. However I have only spent £2200 in the last three years, including about £750 on one item (refacing discs and renewing pads).Agreed I do less than 12,000 miles per annum, but one "oil service" per annum for two years then a bigger one the third year should keep your costs around my figure.
The clutch should last up to 75,000 miles provided you dont do too many drag races.
As already said, do the sort of checks necessary when you are buying a reasonably expensive car, although you could probably miss some of those out if you are buying from a known non-OPC dealer, because you should be offered a Porsche warranty in that case.
Go for it and let us know how you get on.
JohnC
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A wise choise, I have had my 993 turbo for about a year now,and so far its cost me £2804 pounds on maintainence including my first service.But dont let this put you off mate. All I would stress that you do is to get either the AA to check the car out,or insist on a Full 12 months porsche waranty, porsche will not give waranty on a car that is in need of mechanical atention, in that way you will know the car is in tip top condition. I learnt the hard way. If you can find a turbo with porsche waranty, you can carry it on every year which beleve me, will work out cheaper in the long run. My last car was a V8 Audi S4 which I loved, and I choped it in for the dud porsche and it still has not put me off, trust me its worth it. P.S my 60.000 mile service at porsche centre solihull was £654.29 inc VAT. which I thought was not bad. Happy hunting.
sniper
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Agree servicing costs can be staggering. £4k last year - major service,new discs,pads and tyres. I bent alloy - cost £800 to replace!
New intercooler pipes - £700 - fix "minor" oil leak - £700.
It isnt a cheap car to run - but superb car - much rawer than a 996 and the power is amazing - still frightens me full throttle in third gear - even after 20,000 miles[
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New intercooler pipes - £700 - fix "minor" oil leak - £700.
It isnt a cheap car to run - but superb car - much rawer than a 996 and the power is amazing - still frightens me full throttle in third gear - even after 20,000 miles[
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Check out http://www.993tt.com/buying.htm
Usual 993 things apply obviously.
I purchased my car 18 months ago. It's been reliable other than an oil leak that was covered up with sealant by the dealer I purchased it from.
This was an engine out job to sort so I replaced the clutch at the same time. Using a local specialist this worked out at just under £2k. OPC quoted in excess of £4k for the same work.
The car is certainly quick, but 400hp cars are not uncommon these days, RS6, AMG anything. Try driving one and see if its as fast as you imagine it to be. I was suprised how close a pals new Boxster S felt on track in terms of performance.
The car is stiffer and more difficult to drive cross country than a friends 996 turbo. Early 996 turbos represent good value and may be worth considering. However if like Porsche (see 997) and me you prefer the 993 looks then it is a very capable car. Just remember it will feel a little old fashioned compared to the latest Boxster / 997.
Usual 993 things apply obviously.
I purchased my car 18 months ago. It's been reliable other than an oil leak that was covered up with sealant by the dealer I purchased it from.
This was an engine out job to sort so I replaced the clutch at the same time. Using a local specialist this worked out at just under £2k. OPC quoted in excess of £4k for the same work.
The car is certainly quick, but 400hp cars are not uncommon these days, RS6, AMG anything. Try driving one and see if its as fast as you imagine it to be. I was suprised how close a pals new Boxster S felt on track in terms of performance.
The car is stiffer and more difficult to drive cross country than a friends 996 turbo. Early 996 turbos represent good value and may be worth considering. However if like Porsche (see 997) and me you prefer the 993 looks then it is a very capable car. Just remember it will feel a little old fashioned compared to the latest Boxster / 997.
I also went from 993c2 to 993 tt last May and not regretted it
The torque is something special and very addictive....
My car is a '95 and only had 28k miles when I bought it.
Servicing costs IMHO are v reasonable and nothing has gone wrong. Only had to replace rear discs as were corroded through lack of use. Everything seems bulletproof on these.
Most important - its worth more than I paid for it.
Go for it and enjoy.
The torque is something special and very addictive....
My car is a '95 and only had 28k miles when I bought it.
Servicing costs IMHO are v reasonable and nothing has gone wrong. Only had to replace rear discs as were corroded through lack of use. Everything seems bulletproof on these.
Most important - its worth more than I paid for it.
Go for it and enjoy.
dparslow
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Thanks for the feedback everyone, since my initial posting I`ve had chance to talk to a few owners, specialists and view some cars. The general impression I get is that the low mileage infrequent use cars could be the most trouble when required to be used frequently again. Both owners and specialists have mentioned oil leaks and turbo/seal failure causing the blue smoking syndrome. The higher mileage, regular use and well maintained cars seem to be just a case of continuing the servicing and normal replacement of wear and tear items such as brakes, clutches etc.
Is that a fairly accurate opinion across the forum as there must be cars of varying mileages out there. Prices vary so much out there among the specialists, I`ve noticed most of the cars at £45k ish and more, judging by their corroded brake discs have been stood there a long time. What are the 97/98 cars with 50k + on the clock really worth?
Many thanks
Dave
Is that a fairly accurate opinion across the forum as there must be cars of varying mileages out there. Prices vary so much out there among the specialists, I`ve noticed most of the cars at £45k ish and more, judging by their corroded brake discs have been stood there a long time. What are the 97/98 cars with 50k + on the clock really worth?
Many thanks
Dave
Dave
My beast is a 97 model with X50 power upgrade, bought 3.5 years ago for £51K from an OPC after haggling the price down from £57K because it had not been properly prepped for sale. There is now 54k on the clock and as far as I can tell the boy is worth about £45K - academic to me because he will be buried with me in due course.
Would not go by the "corroded brake" look to judge standing-about time. The factory lowered the chrome content in the disc steel because of complaints of squeaky brakes - you can read about it in "Porsche 911 Story" by Frere. Thus unles you have a daily driver, surface rust can form on the discs quite quickly. Its no problem and quickly banished by use.
Mine does not smoke at all, but I believe some cars can give you a fright by blowing a cloud of blue on startup from cold-believe this is due to turbo oil seepage at rest. Again not a problem.
Hope these comments are of some help.
JohnC
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My beast is a 97 model with X50 power upgrade, bought 3.5 years ago for £51K from an OPC after haggling the price down from £57K because it had not been properly prepped for sale. There is now 54k on the clock and as far as I can tell the boy is worth about £45K - academic to me because he will be buried with me in due course.
Would not go by the "corroded brake" look to judge standing-about time. The factory lowered the chrome content in the disc steel because of complaints of squeaky brakes - you can read about it in "Porsche 911 Story" by Frere. Thus unles you have a daily driver, surface rust can form on the discs quite quickly. Its no problem and quickly banished by use.
Mine does not smoke at all, but I believe some cars can give you a fright by blowing a cloud of blue on startup from cold-believe this is due to turbo oil seepage at rest. Again not a problem.
Hope these comments are of some help.
JohnC
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