996 turbo
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Service prices are available on the Porsche website - have you looked ?
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beavercraig
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If you don't buy the car you will be missing a real treat! Had my car 6 months now and drive it nearly every day. Its absolutely awesome! [
][]. 997TT coming soon!
][]. 997TT coming soon!
Diesel130
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I don't think its that bad - especially if you go to an indi - obviously its going to depend on miles. I'd be inclined to do a spreadsheet and try and guage costs of services vs. depreciation. In general I think you'll find that depreciation is a bigger factor in the running costs of a car than servicing so - if my predictions are right in that over (say) a 3 year period, the turbo will depreciate much less than the C4S of the same value - then you should be £££ in.
I may be totally wrong on that one - but the turbo is currently looking very good value for money and will surely always command a premium over normally aspirated ones.
I may be totally wrong on that one - but the turbo is currently looking very good value for money and will surely always command a premium over normally aspirated ones.
sawood12
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Well i've seen a few turbos for under £40k recently - and from the description they're not dogs either. At that price i'm tempted! The only reason to service your car at the OPC and pay OPC prices is if you really want the warranty. I'd much rather trust my car to a good ind than the OPC anyday. The good thing about the GT3 and turbo's are that they don't have the same engine as the cars in the rest of the range and it is much more robust and doesn't suffer any of the well documented (though still rare) problems.
The only thing stopping me is that I want to do more track days and can afford to track my 944 turbo but not a 996 turbo. 98% of the performance (or will be once i've finished tweaking it), 98% lower cost!
The only thing stopping me is that I want to do more track days and can afford to track my 944 turbo but not a 996 turbo. 98% of the performance (or will be once i've finished tweaking it), 98% lower cost!
SCOTJC
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wee bit of advice, go and look at them. Not saying this is for all of them, but when i was looking for one in may last year, i travelled 1200 miles and looked at 13 before i found one that was up to standard. This was ones in the price region 55k-65k so not the cheapest and only the ones with good descriptions and suppossedly good history and from private, dealer and indies so a good spread and couldn't believe how poor the standards were on some of them. I wouldn't have paid 12k for a subaru in these conditions and expected these 100k cars when new to at least be at a decent standard. Having seen a few since at opcs etc I still believe the majority are well below good/excellent condtion but thats all imho!
beavercraig
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I agree. I paid £61k for mine, one owner with 12,000 miles. Depreciation is far better than most models and running costs, well its a super car! so don't expect to run them cheaply. You need to drive a few. Its an acquired taste on track as sequential turbo's become abit of an handful, but it must be miles quicker than 944T even a well sorted one!.
sawood12
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Don't get me wrong a 944 turbo isn't a cheap car to track by any stretch of the imagination but with 50/50 weight distribution they are not that hard on tyres either and they are less than £100 per corner. Also brakes are more expensive on the 911 turbo- a 944 turbo's disks are only £80 per corner for OEM (though my BigBlacks are about £150 each) and with a 996/997 turbo being a heavier car you are bound to get through them at a quicker rate. Then there is the cost if you were to have an off. I'd be gutted if I put my 944T in the tyre wall but at least from a financial perspective i've only lost a cheap car. I'm not so sure i'd be prepared to drive a 996/997 turbo as hard as I drive my 944 turbo on track.
sawood12
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I'm sure they are. Although my car is not the most powerfull 944T out there it is pretty well sorted in the chassis dept with the suspension and brake mods i've carried out but my driving skills are still 'under development'! However when it comes to track day's 80% of it is all about the driver. There is a chap on the 944 forum who tracks his completely std 944T apart from bigger brakes and slick tyres and i've seen him trounce (and I mean leave standing) GT3RS's and other similar machinery. Of course it helps if you've had a decent amount of experience racing 944's. It is impressive to watch.
Guest
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I've mulled over a 996 for several months, I've just sold my Ferrari after 14 years of pleasure and pain but I'am thinking of either a 996tt or a 996 mk1 gt3 in the next few months. I am trying to work out what would suite me best as I only do about 3-5k miles / year and would want to use it daily. (certainly couldn't do that in the Ferrari) I can't really run to a 997 although I had one for 24hours earlier this year through my local OPC and loved it.
I've seen the service data from the Porsche site so thats one thing to consider, I am also thinking about depreciation, am I right in thinking it looks quite high on the tt but not too bad on a gt3?
Oh well, I'll carry on researching for now, be interested in any owner views on the 2 models, I've dissmissed a 996 C2 or 4 as I am a bit worrid about reliability and big depreciation on these.
Cheers,
Mario.
Grant
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I don't know why you have ruled out the 996 C2 & 4, they are both good cars, all depends on your budget, but much of the main depreciation has gone from most of the cars, a £50k Turbo is nearly half price now!
I don't think the 996GT3 is a daily driver unless you like your ride very hard core, my picks for the 996 range would be would be......
C2 with sports pack.
C4S.
Anniversary edition C2.
Turbo.
All depends on your budget & requirements!!!
P.S..... Sawood I used to run a 944T, it was my first slice of Pork & a great car, enjoy!
beavercraig
New member
I agree completely! Track days is 80% about driver ability, hence me saying its an aquired taste with 420+ bhp and rear engine its takes a while to master compared to mid engined or front engined cars with less power. I still think I am somewhat of a pupil on this score. I could ring the neck out of my Boxster S beating alot more powerful cars but am still learning to drive the TT. But slightly soiled Kelvins is what track days are about![
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sawood12
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I am enjoying Grant! A bit too much for my wife's liking. I've often wondered about a standard 996C2 with KW suspension, bigger brakes and a set of track tyres with semi-slicks would be like as a track slag. My interest in track days is primarily about improving my driving rather than out and out times - if you drive well the speed will come automatically - and the challenge of driving a 911 well is appealing to me.
When Peter Morgan inspected my C2, I spoke to him about things to look for when buying a Turbo, and the first thing he said was to look out for noisy wastegates. He said they can rattle loudly on tickover. I've never heard it myself, and I trawled Renntech, but can't seem to find anything, so it can't be that common. They are about £250 each, btw. Not much help really.....
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