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997 C2S - the dream is over!

adrian996

adrian996

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I've had a C2S 997 with low mileage in my sights for a few weeks now and was getting closer to doing a deal - until today when I found out that it's a C98 (Cypriot) car [:mad:]. I thought that it was a bit too good to be true!

Does anyone have any opinions on this situation? Obviously my main concern is resale value - especially having been burnt in a previous deal with an imported VW Passat (don't ask[:mad:])

Is it true that an OPC wouldn't consider taking a C98 car in as part-ex? (Or at least discount it by loads?)

Any thoughts would be welcome - but I think this is a non-starter.

Adrian.
 
Are you sure it is a C98? There are people, well know people who import via Cyprus by with C16 spec.

My Pcar is a Cypriot car, but is a C16, full UK spec. I have had into several OPCs without any problem and they even gave me a good price to p/ex with a Turbo (I did not do it).
 
Hi Marc. Thanks for your reply. Let's put it this way - I asked the vendor to read out the label from the service book (I live 250 miles away from the car) and it starts with C98 (Not C16). It also says that the car was originally delivered to the Porsche dealer in Cyprus - pretty conclusive stuff?[8|]
 
C98 is generally considered to be the code for Cyprus however it is a 'non-specific' code. This car may well have been imported from Cyprus which makes it a grey import (as opposed to a parallel import which is a C16 spec car imported from another country, often Cyprus as they are also right hand drive).

You need to check the service book ands see where it was PDI'd and when and also check the VIN which will tell you the age of the car. You would also have to inform your insurers as they always ask if a car is an import. There are possible problems too with the Thatcham Cat1 alarm system which you must have to insure it for theft in this country.

Don't want to say anymore at the moment as mine is in the hands of solicitors but I would be happy to communicate with you via email if you wish.

There are lots of genuine C16 cars out there!!!! Why take a chance unless it is significantly cheaper than the real article?
 
Sounds like it might have come in through Autobahn in Coventry - they often sourced cars via Cyprus at that time.
 
I had the same thing a few years ago, I found a 996 cabrio with less than a thousand miles on it that was supposed to be an 04 car which at the time would have made it only a few months old.

When I got the chassis number I checked it with Porsche HQ and it turned out it was 18 months old and a Cypriot spec C98.

The dealer that had it maintained it was a UK spec car, however as it was the best part of 59k I didn't want to chance it.

If your going to buy the car as a keeper and its considerably cheaper than a c16 then maybe its worth considering, otherwise I think I'd steer well clear.

There's plenty of uk cars about at the moment and its not like their flying out the dealers doors at the moment.
 
Well bladeboy, I bought a 2005 05 reg C4S last January which turned out to have been manufactured and PDI'd in 2003 in Cyprus. The dealer said it had the balance of the manufacturers waranty i.e. was less than 2 years old. The car hadn't been sereviced in the first two years of its life and hence had an incomplete service history too as well as more owners than as advertised.

Needless to say I took the dealer to court and after nearly 18 months I got judgement in my favour. The whole thing is likely to cost the dealer around £90k. He should have known better!

I wasn't aware (or made aware by the dealer) that the car was an import and the rest of the history of the car. However, if you are buying an import then make sure the price adequately reflects the fact!! They are much cheaper for a reason!
 
ORIGINAL: adrian996

There are lots of genuine C16 cars out there!!!!
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..I know. The risk and hassle just aren't worth it!
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What are the risks? Surely you can check in advance if the dealership will honour your warranty, and if they don't then they are being unreasonable. My brothers UK spec Audi warranty is honoured in Norway with no probs. and he still services it in the UK as servicing prices in Norway are extortionate.
 
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Well bladeboy, I bought a 2005 05 reg C4S last January which turned out to have been manufactured and PDI'd in 2003 in Cyprus. The dealer said it had the balance of the manufacturers waranty i.e. was less than 2 years old. The car hadn't been sereviced in the first two years of its life and hence had an incomplete service history too as well as more owners than as advertised.

Needless to say I took the dealer to court and after nearly 18 months I got judgement in my favour. The whole thing is likely to cost the dealer around £90k. He should have known better!

I wasn't aware (or made aware by the dealer) that the car was an import and the rest of the history of the car. However, if you are buying an import then make sure the price adequately reflects the fact!! They are much cheaper for a reason!
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hg.......is this the breaking news we've been waiting to hear? After 18 months you won?
Congratulations on the good news! £90k? Ouch!![:)]
 
I bought my 987S in Germany. I then converted the alarm system to full UK C16 spec by adding the missing parts and having the appropriate control module reprogrammed by the OPC. My local OPC then provided a letter for insurance purposes to stipulate it met and functioned as a thatcham approved C16 Uk spec car. The missing parts are a tilt sensor, battery backed siren, tamperproof nuts on the rear DME and some basic wiring. Other than some minor tweaks on the radio frequency codes , the oil and tyre spec (hotter country) or possibly rear fog lights , I doubt there is very much else to tell the cars apart between UK and Cyprus.The ECU is usually mapped for a generic pattern to allow for use in different countries anyway (fuels and altitudes) , otherwise you wouldn't be able to drive it abroad .
 
Why do it? In the current market there are so many well priced C16 cars, it's not worth the hassle. The car may be identical, but it's only a hurdle - real or perceived - that will make it difficult to sell on.
And on a different note, Cyprus is a hotbed of for cloned / stolen premium cars. NEVER buy anything that's come in used from there without treading very carefully.
 

ORIGINAL: adrian996

Hi Paul. Thanks for your reply. I've decided to drop the idea of buying it - like a hot potato!
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Hi everyone. Thanks for your replies. As above - I've long forgotten about this one...! Onwards!
 
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