997 CS2 & Bugaboo Cameleon Baby Pram

[PJMusgrave]

Does anyone know if you can fit a bugaboo Cameleon Push Chair in the boot of a 911 C2S ?

The dimensions are : Bugaboo Cameleon:

Folded out with wheels Height: 97cm Width: 60cm Length: 91.5cm

Collapsed with wheels Height: 30.5cm Width: 60cm Length: 84cm

Collapsed without wheels Height: 28.5cm Width: 50cm Length: 90cm

Carry cot Height: 27cm Width: 43cm Length: 90cm

Apart from the Porsche Three Wheeler, could anyone give advice of what fits in the car.

Many thanks,
Philip Musgrave

 

[Geoff_Fields]

No Way! Maximum dimensions inside luggage compartment for a box shape are approx 60cm x 40cm x 36cm. It may be possible to get it behind the front seats but I wouldn't risk damaging my leather.

 

[Guest]

Hey Geoff once you fit the buggy in behind the back seats what about the child, would that go in the front Boot compartment ??

Paula Hine [] (P J Musgrave's Little Sister) x (ML 270 up to last week new Cayenne from Tuesday 22nd to fit in my son and dog !)

 

[Geoff_Fields]

Interesting idea, make sure RSPCC or RSPCA don't find out. Seems you have resolved the problem with a Cayenne. Does that mean 997 is now off the shopping list?

 

[PJMusgrave]

I can now confirm from experience that the Bugaboo Range will not fit into a 997 C2S or C4 (Having bought both the car and the push chair).

After looking around the only options seem to be the Porsche Three Wheeler that completely fills the boot or the fold away Quinny Zap.

Before I purchase a Quinny Zap, has anyone else come up a child's push chair that fits in the boot of a 997 ?

 

[Guest]

I have the full set. Bugaboo, Porsche push chaair and Quinny Zap. The Bugaboo is too big, the Porsche pushchair takes up the whole boot (and I guess wouldn't fit in the C4S) and the Quniny Zap which folds down smallest and is easily the most manouverable, is the best after child is > 8 months. The only reason you may want the Porsche pushchair is that a) It reclines for the baby to go to sleep and it has some underneath storage for shopping. A road test in this household has resulted in the Zap being in constant use and others relegated to the cellar.

Incidentally once get get into the baby seat / airbag deactivation issue, that's another set of variables. Seems to me that young children and 911 transportation (don't forget the car sickness they will inevitably have) is a whole new thread genre!

Good luck, its worth the effort and sets the right expectations.

 

[PJMusgrave]

Dear Henkus,

Thank you for the help. I guess its a Quinny Zap in Black.

I just need to sort out buying a rear car seat that I can have in my wifes estate car then fit it in mine on the odd occasion.

I have already had the front deactivated but its a squeeze to go out as a family with Baby in the front and my wife in the back.

Regards,
Philip

 

[Ronnie C]

Any of you know of which rear facing car seat(s), suitable for a new born, will fit into the back of a 997C2S?

The wife is refusing to be 'relegated' to the back and / or drive the car instead.

 

[Guest]

PJMusgrave, let me know what you end up with for a rear seat. We didn't go with the ISOFIX system and just got the Recaro "Child Start" Seat (from Porscheshop) so we could toggle between the Merc ML and the 997. Its very well engineered but I have to say that the seat's not that great. Perhaps because my wife and I are so tall and have the seats pushed back so far coupled with the fact that this Recaro seat has a thick back rest it means that my one year old son's feet press up against the back of the drivers seat. The other problem is I think this exacerbates is that if the child's face is too close to the back of the rear seats they don't focus on subject matter outside the car and I'm sure this makes them more sick In the end we decided that I'd drive my son around in the front seat to get use to the car sans the wife. Not ideal.

Ronnie C - I tried very hard to find a rear seat for a new born and didn't get a result. Let me know what you manage to unearth.

Henry

 

[Guest]

I'm having the same headaches.

Wife's due date is 8th November. When are your good ladies expecting?

I have the baby seat, but cvannot find a pushchair / pram to fit in the front of the 997. To compound this problem, my wife has a Mini Cooper S which also has a small luggage compartment.

We've opted for the Mamas & Papas Venezia Completa (click to go to the website). This might be suitable for Cayman drivers?!?

 

[m33Porsche]

On this theme does anyone know when you should really stop breast feeding. If you continue past 12 yo does this give you a breast fixation?

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m33porsche

Seriously though can't help but think that it's the choice of car that's wrong not buggy?

 

[Guest]

Guys new born babys and a 911 is a no go just have to travel with to much baby gear for a child so young, Bugaboo in the back even with seats down again no going to happen without discomfort. My partner was not able to come back in my vehicle around month 5 of pregagnancy because of being so low.

 

[PJMusgrave]

We have purchased a Maxi Cosi XP Seat for my wifes Estate but it will only fit in the front of the 911. I tried a Recaro Young Sport Seat in the back of the 911, this did not fit.

I still need to sort out a forward facing seat for the 911 and are awaiting for the baby shop to get a a Recaro Expert Seat to try in the back next.

 

[RichardLW]

Come on you guys - its a roof rack or a tow hook and a trailer. Frankly, it would be less trouble to feign a headache....

 

[Ronnie C]

ORIGINAL: ashleyadam

Guys new born babys and a 911 is a no go just have to travel with to much baby gear for a child so young, Bugaboo in the back even with seats down again no going to happen without discomfort. My partner was not able to come back in my vehicle around month 5 of pregagnancy because of being so low.

I think that is a very sweeping statement, and simply wrong. I can't believe a newborn is that much of a challenge as to make it completely impossible / incompatible with 911. I know 997 owners in USA have been able to use rear facing baby seats in the rear of these cars. I can't remember the name of the car seat manufacturers, but I do remember I'd not heard of them over here. Search other more frequented Porsche forums and you will see photos of such rear facing newborn seats.

An example of how people are different is whilst your partner found your car uncomfortable at 5 months, my wife is now 6/7 months and actually finds my front sport seat one of the few places she can be completely comfortable for prolonged periods.

 

[Guest]

I've got to support Ronnie C's view. For in our house, its my wife that wants to use the 997 as the regular car even if that involves some effort. She also wants to be able to go to the track with the family. I think the whole point of Porsche ownership (at the non GT/CS) level is that it's inclusive. To build a car that facilitates such takes engineering brains and although you need to compromise a bit, it can be done. Its why I bought one. Keep the Lambo's, Ferrari's, Astons, they all too one dimensional and less clever for it.

 

[PJMusgrave]

After trying many car seats, the Britax Evolva 123 forward facing fits fine in the back and goes from 9 months to 11 years. However its not easy getting baby in and out of the car. (The Evolva 123 Ultra will not fit, its too wide)

You have to remove the cup holders from the seat to enable itr to slide into poistion between the speaker and center of the back seats.

I have also bought a Quinny Zap Push Chair which fits in the front with space for some shopping. The Porsche Push Chair was really nice but took up the complete front boot space on a C2S. I also tried the Mutsy Spyder this fitted in the front but still took up most of the space.

I am looking forward to going out as a family in the 997 this weekend.