997 Gen 2 Turbo S here couple of questions

[mnk303]

Well picked her up today quite a machine, first impressions unbelievable quick, got to be very careful as you don't realise how quick she is. 5 1/2 hour drive back from Leeds terriable traffic most of the way,

Couple of questions to those who know please.

Car seems in normal mode to almost hesitate on putting your foot down but when in sports or sports plus it's like instant is this just a characteristic of Turbo S , don't get me wrong still goes but in normal just not as responsive.

hand break seems to be slightly up IE: if you put your hand on it when down its seems to have a bit of spring in it?

Can't fault the preparation , the dealer as standard upgrade the sat nav to the latest spec, only think I like to add is something to lift the interior trip up a bit , owning a new cayenne the silver trim does lift the cabin ,

Full personal review on the car to follow in few weeks .
Thanks Martin

 

[tscaptain]

The throttle map is changed in sport/sport plus to make it more responsive to the initial pedal movement, I believe, and a!so it is likely to be in a higher gear in normal mode, thus making the response feel more sluggish - if you can ever call it so! If the hand brake light goes out I wouldn't worry about it. BTW, did you know that, allegedly, raising the hand brake one click disables the 4 wheel drive.......and you get a rear wheel drive only car. Downside is that you have to put up with the light on the dash! As told by an instructor at PDE.

 

[mnk303]

Thank you that's great advice and I did not know any of that . I guess if I take over from auto on the pdk it will act more personally . Certainly the quickest car I have ever driven O my !!!!

 

[andycraven25]

Congrats on the purchase! Looks lovely. When in normal mode, as pointed out chances are you'll be in a higher gear so the box has to select the right gear and there's a bit of a lag - get the same in my GTS. I tend to put mine in manual mode and use the paddles so even in normal rather than sports/sports plus, the pick up is quicker when needed.

 

[waxman]

ORIGINAL: andycraven25 Congrats on the purchase! Looks lovely. When in normal mode, as pointed out chances are you'll be in a higher gear so the box has to select the right gear and there's a bit of a lag - get the same in my GTS. I tend to put mine in manual mode and use the paddles so even in normal rather than sports/sports plus, the pick up is quicker when needed.

Tend to drive mine the same - don't forget that if you plant your right foot it will change down a bunch of gears and hold that ratio throug the rev range - useful if you don't want to paddle down through more than 2 gears - goes ballistic I the GTS so turbo S must be *###*** Tony

 

[mikfinch]

I recently traded up from a Gen 1 997 Turbo Manual to a Gen 2 997 Turbo (non S) PDK and I've got the same sort of comments as you. After the any gear/any rpm grunt of the Gen 1 997 Turbo Manual, I'm a little bit disappointed with the performance of the Gen 2 997 Turbo and that comes down to the PDK gearbox. In it's default Normal mode it goes up the gears far too quickly which means that when you want instant performance for, say, an overtake, it takes a few fractions of a second to think about it and then change down a couple of gears and I find that frustrating. This is supposed to be a sports car, not an econo box, and it should feel like one all the time. The Sport mode is much better of course but you have to select it every time and if you don't want the Sport suspension mode, deselect that. If I could find a way of making the Sport mode the default mode I would do it. Then the other frustrating characteristic of the PDK box is that in any mode it will always change down to 1st gear at crawl speed which means that sometimes, filtering onto a roundabout for example, I find myself in 1st gear when I think I'm in 2nd and that can make for unnecessarily jerky progress.

Yes I suppose I could use manual mode all the time but when you've got a box which has an auto mode, sometimes you don't want to use the manual mode. I have to say that if somebody offered me my Gen 1 997 Turbo Manual back, I might take it because that was a great car. That may be something to do with the old 3.6 Mezger engine which seemed a more characterful lump than the later 3.8 engine

 

[Lancerlot]

Sounds like there's either something wrong with your car or your driving style. PDK has a learning mode that takes its queue from the way you drive. After a few weeks, I found it was uncanny how the system selected the correct gear 99% of the time. You need to give it time.

As regards crawling, the box selects the highest appropriate gear for the engine speed, but is also governed by engine load, vehicle attitude, steering angle etc. etc.

PDK is a very sophisticated system and Porsche are one of the best at utilising it.

Regards,

Clive.

 

[mnk303]

I certainly find driving a turbo car requires a slightly different style or method as far as the PDK the generation I have in the 997 is not quite as advanced as the 981S was and there is a touch of jitter in very slow traffic (I will add that an early PDK box I had in a 987 boxer was terrible, in the end I sold the car because of traffic jitter), but as this is the 3rd PDK car I have had I would say it's pretty dam good, never as smooth as a normal auto box , now I have done 500 Miles in the car I find putting the car in Sports mode turns it into what I consider my driving style , or I just go manual, in traffic auto normal us very comfortable and a safer bet licence wise , give it time I would say the car is a stage on to the Gen1 .

 

[Nicks]

In the end I sold the car because of traffic jitter.

I wonder if the jitter was caused by a rough engine at low revs upsetting the PDK gearbox.

Nick

 

[mnk303]

In the end I sold the car because of traffic jitter.

I wonder if the jitter was caused by a rough engine at low revs upsetting the PDK gearbox.

Nick

Don't know Nick but Porsche HQ got involved and after much to and fro agreed it was at the edge of acceptability . But would not change the box. Cost me a £9k loss to move it in

 

[andy1cyp]

Sounds like there's either something wrong with your car or your driving style. PDK has a learning mode that takes its queue from the way you drive. After a few weeks, I found it was uncanny how the system selected the correct gear 99% of the time. You need to give it time.

As regards crawling, the box selects the highest appropriate gear for the engine speed, but is also governed by engine load, vehicle attitude, steering angle etc. etc.

PDK is a very sophisticated system and Porsche are one of the best at utilising it.

Regards,

Clive.

Very well put and I agree 100%, after a month and a half I'm my gen 2 turbo the pdk has found my driving style perfectly.

But I have to admit I rarely use normal mode , i prefer sport mode and use paddles, sport plus is more for launch control.

 

[grover]

Great car, I had a white one with aerokit from new in 2010 and just loved it......up around Italy, Austria and Germany too it was awesome on the twisty stuff too so missing my 911 a lot but have other vehicles now to ease the pain

Enjoy