I just had a test drive in the GTS and am really impressed. I had one question which maybe some of you technical guru's out there may be able to answer : does the GTS share the same block as the Turbo/GT3/GT2? I couldn't find the answer doing a search so sorry if this has been asked before.
997 GTS question
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]). The GTS has the engine from the standard Gen 2 C2S with the power upgrade. Glad you enjoyed you test drive, I'm going up to Silverstone at the weekend to test the GTS myself and looking forward to it greatly.
If you mean is it based on the GT1-derived Metzger engine, then no - it uses the same DFI engine in the Carrera S but with a power hike from 385 to 408 HP and a slightly different torque curve "made possible by the redesigned intake manifold, the modified cylinder heads and the optimised engine electronics" (by which I guess they mean a remap).
Posche spec pages to compare: Carrera S and GTS.
Posche spec pages to compare: Carrera S and GTS.
To repeat spyderman and Peters comments - No
Not the Metzger derived Turbo, GT2/3 or indeed DFI derived Gen 2 Turbo. In the latter case there is some commonality of parts but Porsche have been a bit coy how much.
The engine is the 3.8L Carerra S with changed bits - lots of them most notably cylinder heads (its basically a new top half to the engine). Since there is so much changed in Porsche speak you could argue its a Carerra S derived engine on its own merits.
The previous x51 engines have been corkers (x51 denotes the power kit upgrade) having much better torque across the range (and therefore power) - they hide their light under a bushel a bit as peak figures aren't much higher than standard but across the rev range the engine gives a much higher average power and torque figure. It tends to be very linear so doesn't "feel" all that much faster than a stock car but is.
In a previous Porsche magazine test - On a road (not track) the Gen 1 power kit was a match/near match in sprint times and in gear times with a GT3 up to about 100mph (then it got stuffed by the GT3) so for normal road driving its a bit of a dark horse.
hope this helps
Not the Metzger derived Turbo, GT2/3 or indeed DFI derived Gen 2 Turbo. In the latter case there is some commonality of parts but Porsche have been a bit coy how much.
The engine is the 3.8L Carerra S with changed bits - lots of them most notably cylinder heads (its basically a new top half to the engine). Since there is so much changed in Porsche speak you could argue its a Carerra S derived engine on its own merits.
The previous x51 engines have been corkers (x51 denotes the power kit upgrade) having much better torque across the range (and therefore power) - they hide their light under a bushel a bit as peak figures aren't much higher than standard but across the rev range the engine gives a much higher average power and torque figure. It tends to be very linear so doesn't "feel" all that much faster than a stock car but is.
In a previous Porsche magazine test - On a road (not track) the Gen 1 power kit was a match/near match in sprint times and in gear times with a GT3 up to about 100mph (then it got stuffed by the GT3) so for normal road driving its a bit of a dark horse.
hope this helps
Porsche is now less than a year away from launching its next-generation 911 and as can be seen by these latest spy shots, prototypes for the car appear to be almost complete. Earlier this year we brought you spy shots of the latest prototype for the 911 Carrera hard-top, and today we have new shots of the 2012 Porsche 911 Cabriolet.
We first started seeing test-mules for the new 911 back in 2008 and soon after that Porsche's chief of research and development, Wolfgang Dürheimer, revealed some details of what to expect for the new car.
Speaking of the new car, Dürheimer said, "'it will be even more competent, even sexier, even more unique. The design can of course only be evolutionary, but beneath the skin, almost anything is possible". The 2012 Porsche 911, known internally as 'project 991', will feature a few radical departures from the 911's long-running classical styling.
The changes are out of necessity more than anything, but they will be noticeable. First, pedestrian protection rules in Europe will require a change to the nose section of the car, likely meaning a larger and more collapsible bumper section. The rear of the car will also be changed, but for aerodynamic improvement.
Clear differences between the new model and the current 997 are the more upright headlights, a slightly longer body, and the side mirrors are now positioned at the side of the doors and not at the window.
Other new features for the car will include extensive use of lightweight carbon fiber materials and active aerodynamics--surfaces that react to what the car is doing, and how fast it's doing it. Expect adjustable front and rear spoilers, dynamically opening and closing air intakes and an automatic rear wing.
As for powertrains, reports coming out of Germany claim power in the base Carrera will stand at 345 horsepower from a 3.4-liter boxer engine, downsized 200 ccs from the current engine. Step up to the Carrera S, however, and you're expected to get a bigger 3.8-liter engine and 395 horsepower.
We still have a long wait to get the final word, however, as the 2012 Porsche 911 isn't due until September's 2011 Frankfurt Auto Show.
http://www.motorauthority.com/pictures/1036163_spy-shots-2012-porsche-911-cabriolet_gallery-1#100341291
Yeh, 12 months is a long wait.
But if it were me then I don't think I'd be able to justify the big depreciation hit when the new model number comes out. Buying a 997.2 Turbo/GT3 now is different as they wont be out for another 2 years after the Carrera is introduced. But the GTS really is just a Carrera with goodies, so it's a like for like replacement in 12 months.
As I say, not trying to talk anyone out of getting one as they drive really well from my experiences yesterday. Just a bit of a dark cloud slowely rolling in over it's head (991 Carrera)...
But if it were me then I don't think I'd be able to justify the big depreciation hit when the new model number comes out. Buying a 997.2 Turbo/GT3 now is different as they wont be out for another 2 years after the Carrera is introduced. But the GTS really is just a Carrera with goodies, so it's a like for like replacement in 12 months.
As I say, not trying to talk anyone out of getting one as they drive really well from my experiences yesterday. Just a bit of a dark cloud slowely rolling in over it's head (991 Carrera)...
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