997S

[PenelopePitstop]

Hi Richard....there can only be one choice in my opinion and that is the C2S. Much perkier and far more quirky than the 4. For more fun stick with the 2....if you want more stability on the road and want a sturdier drive then go with the 4.... I have a cab which is just superb and def worth considering...my roof is always down! But you must drive both to really decide for yourself..... I've only had mine for 3 weeks and am soooo happy with her... Best of luck PPx

 

[garyw]

Exactly what PP said....[] I'm 4wd drive but enjoy that style of car... If its an everyday car then the C4 with comes the wider rear end may be the thing for you... A weekend only then the C2 has that bit more Porsche feeling- apparently You do need to drive both to understand it... garyw

 

[tscaptain]

ORIGINAL: bathroom Question, 2S or 4S?

2S - no question![]

 

[bathroom]

Hi, new to forum and looking to buy a 997S. Question, 2S or 4S? Your thoughts would be much appreciated. Cheers Richard.

 

[Wills]

ORIGINAL: tscaptain

ORIGINAL: bathroom Question, 2S or 4S?

  2S - no question![]

Yep C2S all the way! You'll be quicker in a C4S due to the confidence the all wheel drive gives you, but the C2S gives you that sense it could all go wrong! [8D]

 

[paulmichele]

Richard One more vote for the C2S. But drive both before you decide. Whatever you pick will put a smile on your face every time. Paul

 

[betternotbigger]

Absolutely the C2S. The unusual weight balance is all part of the uniqe joy of these cars and the extra 50kg over the front wheels really makes a difference not just to its nimbleness. And, as other posters have hinted, you feel more of a hero in the more challenging car (ok, occasionally). It definitely feels more alive.

 

[Alex L]

Personally if I were to go back to a Carrera then I would stay away from the C2S and go for the C4S. I owned a C2S for 2 years and I really didn't like how the steering went light when you accelerate. The 4wd 911's have much better front feel as there is more weight over that axel. Plus in the wet/snow the grip difference is huge, that's a big factor here in the UK.

 

[tscaptain]

As the front wheel drive only kicks in when you need it (when it senses a difference in speed between the front and rears) then I guess for the vast majority of the time it will drive like a 2WD car (or is that just on the Gen 2's?). Bit of extra weight and small loss of storage space up front. I did love my 2wd 997's but if you could see what the turbo does from a standing start going UP the ice hill at PDE [8D], pedal to the floor, then I guess you might plump for 4wd (and I kinda retract my earlier post![]). Usual story - try both and see if you can spot the difference!

 

[mascanes]

I am no expert on either a 4S or 2S as having only owned mine for 7 days............ one of my drivers for my choice of 997 was all weather capability as I travel into Europe during the winter. I decided this when I couldn't get my Boxster out of the friggin garage during the past two winters!! what with the wife's Merc rear drive as well, I was driven to walking to the pub !!! ..... as for the performance advantages, well these 911's seem to have so much grip who cares !!! ..........[8D] anyway this a 911 virgin speaking, so as everyone else is suggesting try and drive both, these people have far more experience than me ................. []

 

[Lancerlot]

ORIGINAL: bathroom Hi, new to forum and looking to buy a 997S. Question, 2S or 4S? Your thoughts would be much appreciated.  Cheers Richard.

C2S = neutral to oversteering characteristics C4S = understeering characteristics Depends on your driving style. [] Regards, Clive

 

[pwebb]

ORIGINAL: Alex L Personally if I were to go back to a Carrera then I would stay away from the C2S and go for the C4S.  I owned a C2S for 2 years and I really didn't like how the steering went light when you accelerate.  The 4wd 911's have much better front feel as there is more weight over that axel.  Plus in the wet/snow the grip difference is huge, that's a big factor here in the UK.

Gen11 suspension changes mean that the C2S front end is much more stable than the Gen1 - less of the typical bobbing of the front when pressing on, particularly in sport mode. I find the C4S has a bit more of a 'heavy' feeling, and actually think I prefer the feel of the Gen 1. For snow I use the Cayenne with winter tyres...[]

 

[ngm2360]

Hi Bathroom, why not invest £270 at the Porsche experience centre where you can try out both models around the handling track. Going around the same course lap after lap gradually building up the speed and feeling the limits. Might be more useful than a short test drive from an OPC. Am off there Thursday myself for some fun. Regards.

 

[garyw]

ORIGINAL: zen4590 Oooops, I replied in the other thread [8|]

which I've just removed out of the way []

 

[Wills]

ORIGINAL: zen4590 Oooops, I replied in the other thread [8|] C2s if just for pleasure, C4s if you need to use it all year round.

I really don't get this you need 4wd to use all year round argument, last winter the worst for 15 years? my C2S was out of action for 2 days (and TBH I wouldn't have wanted to be driving round in an 80k car in those conditions whatever the drive system.) I think it comes down to what you like i.e the wider rear end does look good and the 4wd gives a more planted feeling, and there is no doubt the C2S feels more alive, however both are practical everyday propositions in the UK anyway. What a great problem to have![]

 

[betternotbigger]

+1 to Wills. I live in the Pennines where snow and steep hills are a fact of life and I was nipping off in my C2S to the Lake District to go ice climbing during last winter's arctic conditions. You've got to drive these things sensibly in snowy/icy conditions but tyres are far more important than the number of driven wheels. Managed on summer tyres last winter but looking forward to swapping into my new set of winter Sottozeros in December.

 

[Rocksters]

Went through the same decision making process early last year and opted for the C2S. I found the 2S at least as visually appealing as the 4S. I preferred having the extra boot room (there's not a lot in the first place). Handling wise, I preferred the "friskier" nature of the 2S (it is noticeably lighter through corners), although Alex is right about the lighter feel on the steering when you accelerate. This started to bother me after taking it on spirited drives especially, but on advice from many on this forum, I had a geo setup done with Chris Franklin at Center Gravity who changed the feel of the car dramatically and corrected this issue. Basically, he adjusted the wheel alignment so there is now more grip to the front wheels - it now feels very stable when cornering at higher speeds compared to before and I drive it with substantially more confidence than previously. Finally and this is very subjective, I don't like the centre strip between the tail lights. All this said, I would wholly agree with others that there is no substitute than to drive both (back to back if possible) before you choose. Good luck! Cheers.

 

[bathroom]

Many thanks for your replies guys. As it was said, nice problem to have. Had a good blast in a mates 4S the other day and was very impressed. Will soon take the plunge so will keep you posted. Cheers.

 

[Sunil]

Prior to the GTS being launched I would have said the C2S. Now that it has been launched, I would recommend the GTS. There are only two main negatives I can think. The first is that it's slightly more costly but you'll benefit from a much better resale value later so it's worthwhile taking the hit now rather than later. Previously some people would have bought the X51 but you'd get very little of that back on resale whereas with the GTS Porsche have created a whole new model. There will also be relatively fewer GTSs sold overall and therefore more desirable both now and later. The second is that with a wider track at the back, you'll have slightly increased road noise due to larger tyres. Oh, and, I agree with many of the comments above and I feel that RWD is the way to go if you want a purer driving experience.