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Akrapovic Exhaust

Porker911gts

Porker911gts

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Happy New Year to you all.

i am considering getting a Akrapovic Exhaust fitted to my 991.1 GTS and wanted to see if anyone had any views on the system itself, specifically in terms of:
- impact on the Porsche warranty.
- impact on the sound, presumably this links to the sports exhaust button
- any views on whether you can tell the increase in power and torque
- finally cost and recommendations on fitting.

i know the akra exhausts are well made systems having had them on a number of motorbikes over the years and read reviews on them fitted to various sports cars.

many thanks

Gareth
 
It would certainly invalidate any Porsche Extended Warranty, might not apply now if your car is still covered by Factory Warranty but trouble looming in the future. They have a great reputation and would be my number one choice if I was doing an exhaust mod. Note that only some of their systems give the huge weight saving.
 
re Warranty invalidation. They are only allowed to refuse a claim if the fault developed can be directly associated with a non oem part. Law was changed around this point a few years ago. So, if your gearbox goes foom, oil pump fails etc, they'd be on a sticky wicket refusing you. Even so Porsche would need to prove (onus is on them) that the replacement part is not of equivalent quality/function.
This was much discussed by the Mitsubishi Evolution crowd that I was once involved in and Mitsubishi Motors (UK) were "honourable" on both the original warranty and the extensions.

Although, be aware this is an EU regulation (Directive 98/71 i think is the right one after a quick google), so post Brexit this may change depending on the lobby influence of the Motor Vehicle mob.
 
Not sure that is right.

The new car "factory" warranty comes under EU block exemption rules which means that equivalent parts may be used fitted to OEM service standards without loss of warranty cover. Prepare for discussion about the meaning of equivalent (e.g. TRW pattern part OK, different exhaust really equivalent?)

Porsche Centre used car warranty and extended warranty are contracts which contain obligations on the warrantee to use standard parts, quite different.

Non standard batteries, hard wired dash cams, mesh protecting front radiators have all been reported by members as reasons for denial of warranty extensions.

I'd guess "Motor Vehicle mob" would press for observance of same rules in or out of EU so I would not expect anything to change.
 
Akrapovic systems are well developed and beautifully fabricated. They are used by Porsche themselves on some of their halo models.

  • The position with warranty is as Ralph has described it. Of course, you have the option to retain the original system and refit it should you wish to reinstate the car to its original spec.
  • Sound will improve and yes it does link to the sports system. Take a look on YouTube, there are plenty of examples for you to hear the result.
  • Manufacturer's claim is 18 bhp at 6,600 rpm and 28 lbs/ft at 2650 rpm. So cost/benefit for performance would probably not be the principal reason for the conversion.
  • Looking at the Akrapovic website there are a number of authorised dealers in UK, any one should be able to advise you on fitting. http://www.akrapovic.com/#!/car/where-to-buy?country=527d979a-7c4d-e111-940b-005056ab5fb4&segment=car
  • Be prepared for a substantial 4 figure sum for a full replacement. :rolleyes:
Regards,

Clive
 
ralphmusic said:
Not sure that is right.

The new car "factory" warranty comes under EU block exemption rules which means that equivalent parts may be used fitted to OEM service standards without loss of warranty cover. Prepare for discussion about the meaning of equivalent (e.g. TRW pattern part OK, different exhaust really equivalent?)

Porsche Centre used car warranty and extended warranty are contracts which contain obligations on the warrantee to use standard parts, quite different.

Non standard batteries, hard wired dash cams, mesh protecting front radiators have all been reported by members as reasons for denial of warranty extensions.

I'd guess "Motor Vehicle mob" would press for observance of same rules in or out of EU so I would not expect anything to change.
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Sure, doing a bit more reading of this board, it seems that Porsche have interpreted the block exemption rules as you describe. I'm sorry if I've mislead anyone! One would expect a somewhat Teutonic approach from Porsche I guess, but weirdly the Bavarians are a lot "cooler" about the whole thing! (From experience of the M-Division)

Do we know whether individual OPC's "get tough" on people with, for example, stone grilles fitted to their 991s in the event of a cooling issue?

 
Happy new year to all.

Obvsly I can’t speak for 991 but for my warranty extension the Zunsport external grilles had to be removed.

I had these on a previous car and can happily state that they made no difference to running water/ oil temps even in very hot ambients.

I have no knowledge of the official reaction to them being fitted if a car develops a cooling issue though, sorry.
 
Thanks all, some really helpful comments and have emailed the Akra dealer to get an idea of price and ideally to hear a car where it's been fitted as You tube is always a bit tricky to gauge.

Gareth

 
Hi Gareth,
I have an Akrapovic fitted to my RS6 and can only say what a piece of workmanship.Fitted straight onto the hangers so no need to re-weld them.
You do pay for what you get.After 36 months had an issue with the valves on right hand rear box,Richter sport in Milton keynes who had fitted the exhaust originally contacted Akrapovic and a new rear box section fitted FOC.
Sound wise on the Audi a lot different to OEM but not booming or too loud.The pops and bangs on the up and down shifts are addictive, now sound's like it should have when it left the factory ( Audi sport in Germany sell this system by Akrapovic but branded Audi sport ) so in the GTS should sound amazing so might upset the turbo boys ........
As for the warranty as above really but if you go in with your eyes wide open why not just go for it - you can always re-fit the old system when or if you sell the car.
Just bear in mind this action could lead you down the modifying route ............... bring it on.
Where are you based ?

 
991JAW said:
........ Just bear in mind this action could lead you down the modifying route ............... bring it on...
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..and if you'd like to join the Modified Register and get a Register sticker, just add Modified to the list of Registers on your profile
 
Reviewing your enquiry on cost, the titanium Slip-On Line (Titanium) is £7,000 + VAT and fitting and there's also an optional sound kit £400 + VAT.
Parts are available off the shelf in UK.
Regards,

Clive



 
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