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And you thought a 997 was expensive to maintain!

Clewsey

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Hi All,

Whilst not Porsche related and for anybody considering an E92 M3 as their "other" car, I thought I'd provide some perspective on expensive ownership of this particular car so early on during it's life (yes, before you say it I should have read some forums first [:)] )

I recently got a great deal on a new M3 coupe two months ago. After having had an E46 M3 I'd generally found the servicing to be reasonable, considering I didn't have to pay higher costs until 3 years into ownership (tyres excluded of course).

So when I took my car into my local dealer for it's 1200 mile running-in service I expected an hour "while-you-wait" service for engine, gearbox and axle oil replacement just as it was for the previous model. When asked how I was going to settle my bill, I naturally started to get that sinking feeling. I was told it would be 150.00, then 20 mins later, the sheepish looking advisor told me he'd made a mistake......It was 350.00!! After 1200 miles!

A swift call to the Sales Manager brought the cost down to 150.00 but I was appalled that BMW had the nerve to think they could charge for what I considered to be a design feature of the BMW engine. Afterall, our lovely 911's don't (hopefully) see an OPC for up to 2 years.

Bearing in mind that the car has not being driven to it's potential for the running in period I was also presented with tyre tread measurements which told me I had 2mm of tread left on the outside of every tyre! BMW in their wisdom changed the orginal fitment PS2's to Pilot Cup tyres similar to those found on the earlier CSL. So, as well as a ridiculous decision by BMW on running-in servicing costs, a 5K mile potential lifespan on standard fit tyres just shows why the cost of maintaining a 911 is not as bad as everyone thinks :)

On a positive note, the engine is a masterpiece, but still nowhere near as special as a 911 feels!

Cheers!

 
Would anyone seriously leave the same original oil in a new 997.2 engine for two years?!

Sorry, I don't care what the jury says about running a new engine in these days - there's bound to be swarf and all sorts of nasty acids floating around in the engine oil of a new car after a few thousand miles. For the sake of circa £100 you'd have to change the oil and filter before then - surely?!

My engine oil had done 1,200 miles over the last year (GTX Magnatec) and my Indi put it in a white bucket for me to see when I collected the car after its yearly service with him. I would describe the oil as a very dark brown - NOT as black as molasses but much darker than I thought that it would be after just 1,200 very tame miles!

IMO I think that it's great that BMW ask to see your car after 1200 miles - it shows that they understand the mechanics of a new engine and aren't just interested in maintaining the happiness of the fleet buyers! (Which I think you'll find Porsche now are![;)])
 
Well yes but either way, that comes down to the choice of the owner. It isn't mandatory.

IMO, having a new car and being forced to pay 350.00 to put in new oil at 1200 miles is ridiculous even if it's a good idea.

Cheers
 
it is mandatory on an M3, if you want to keep you warranty intact. Charging for it is unbelieveably tight of them. Oil service on an E46 was circa £160, at approx 16k miles interval for me but I did a lot of Mway stuff.
 
I just had the warranty renewal on my BMW X5d - £1,725 - and not as comprehensive as the new Porsche one, all servicing has to be carried out at BMW Approved dealerships and any non-BMW mods are excluded, as are any consequential claims. Don't get me wrong, the X5 is great, but why all the grief elsewhere about the Porsche warranty?
 
They also changed the gearbox and rear-axle oil and they added an extra hour to the service.

On the plus side, the engine makes a fantastic noise when revved up to 8k rpm, it just makes me want to get the PSE fitted even sooner!


ORIGINAL: nathan 1981 930 G50

The oil and filter(s) should be changed. But why does it cost £350 ?

I'm wondering if this is why BMW's hold their value well.
 
hi

took my wifes 3 month old x5 back to dealer electronic handbrake kept on failing to release-i was banned from bmw dealer service centre because i refused tp pay £23 for a courtsey car




chris
 
ORIGINAL: chrismouzou

hi

took my wifes 3 month old x5 back to dealer electronic handbrake kept on failing to release-i was banned from bmw dealer service centre because i refused tp pay £23 for a courtsey car




chris
same centre you spent£40k in???[:mad:]
 
ORIGINAL: Clewsey

They also changed the gearbox and rear-axle oil and they added an extra hour to the service.

On the plus side, the engine makes a fantastic noise when revved up to 8k rpm, it just makes me want to get the PSE fitted even sooner!

You're going to fit a 'Porsche Sports Exhaust' to your M3?
 
[:D]
ORIGINAL: DSM

ORIGINAL: Clewsey

They also changed the gearbox and rear-axle oil and they added an extra hour to the service.

On the plus side, the engine makes a fantastic noise when revved up to 8k rpm, it just makes me want to get the PSE fitted even sooner!

You're going to fit a 'Porsche Sports Exhaust' to your M3?
i think he`s got a 997 as well as the M3(lucky barsteward)[:D]
 
exactly

also when i refused to pay the £23 pound bmw needed- the service manager said legally the x5 belonged to them ( i couldnt stop laughing the service manager is in the wrong job should have been a comedian )thats when i snatched the bill of him and threw it in the bin and asked him[:mad:]to get the keys for my wifes car
 
Now there's a thought :) I've got a 997.2 S which is sounds very quiet since hearing the M3 at 8k rpm!

ORIGINAL: DSM

ORIGINAL: Clewsey

They also changed the gearbox and rear-axle oil and they added an extra hour to the service.

On the plus side, the engine makes a fantastic noise when revved up to 8k rpm, it just makes me want to get the PSE fitted even sooner!

You're going to fit a 'Porsche Sports Exhaust' to your M3?
 

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