Another Brand New Version Of Old 997

[daro911]

4WD 911 GTS announced
12 May 2011
http://www.autocar.co.uk/News/NewsArticle/AllCars/257005/

Porsche is extracting two further incarnations out of the current edition 911: the Carrera 4 GTS, in both coupe and cabriolet form.

The firm's recently announced GT3 RS 4.0 had been widely tipped to be the last 997-edition 911, ahead of the next generation of the car making its debut at the Frankfurt show this coming autumn.

But Porsche has now announced that four-wheel-drive versions of the GTS - which mixed a rear-drive layout with the Carrera 4's wider track and a performance pack - will go on sale in the summer.

The C4 GTS gets the same 402bhp, 3.8-litre flat six engine as the regular GTS. The unit, a development of the 3.8 from the regular Carrera S, has a similar torque figure to that powerplant - 309lb ft - but it's available over a wider spread of revs. Porsche claims that 236lb ft is available at just 1500rpm.

The four-wheel-drive version of the car gets Porsche's Traction Management system, and a limited-slip rear differential as standard.

With the standard-fit six-speed manual transmission, the C4 GTS can hit 62mph in 4.6sec (cabrio in 4.8sec); the optional PDK dual-clutch gearbox slices 0.2sec from those times. Porsche has not revealed any top speed figures, however sources say that the manual coupe version will be good for 187mph.

Despite the increase in engine performance, the GTS matches the regular C4S's fuel economy figures (26.9mpg for the coupe) and CO2 emissions (247g/km).
Visual embellishments are kept to a minimum; there are decals on the doors and boot, and a reflective stripe between the tail-lights, a Porsche "˜identifier' for four-wheel drive.

The cars ago on sale in July. They'll cost £83,145 (coupe) and £90,024 (cabriolet), a hike of just under £5k over the two-wheel-drive GTS models

 

[Lancerlot]

The beauty of the GTS is in its sharpness; the 4WD version is unlikely to match it either in handling or acceleration due to the extra weight.

Regards,

Clive

 

[Nick_USA]

Top speed figures:

Manual: 188 mph (302 km/h)
PDK: 186 mph (300 km/h)

 

[daro911]

ORIGINAL: Nick_USA

Top speed figures:

Manual: 188 mph (302 km/h)
PDK: 186 mph (300 km/h)

Another day, another special edition of the soon-to-be-replaced 911. This time the Carerra 4S Coupe and Cabriolet have received the GTS treament - to join the two-wheel drive GTS that went on sale in February.

Besides the extra badges, the most notable change is an increase in power for the 3.8-litre flat-six engine - an additional 23bhp takes the output to 402bhp, sent to all four wheels. Fitted with the standard six-speed manual gearbox that's enough to send the coupe and cabriolet from 0-62mph in 4.6 and 4.8 seconds respectively, although 0.2 seconds can be shaved from those times if you opt for the PDK 'box.

Despite the boost in performance, fuel consumption is identical to the Carrera 4S at 26.9mpg, with CO2 emissions of 247g/km.

Compared to the standard 4S model, the GTS gains a Sport-Design front apron, with a black painted spoiler lip, and deeper side skirts. Inside there's sports seats as standard while 19-inch black RS Spyder alloys with a central wheel bolt add to the exterior aggression.

Other standard kit includes a rear limited slip differential, a switchable sports exhaust and a reflective strip between the tail lamps - the latter of which marks out all four-wheel drive models in the 911 range.

The 911 Carrera 4 GTS Coupé and Cabriolet go on sale in the UK in July, priced from £83,145 for the Coupé and £90,024 for the Cabriolet



Read more: http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/news/autoexpressnews/267691/porsche_carrera_4_gts_muscles_in.html#ixzz1M83iynqz

 

[flat6]

The Carrera GTS, the only wide bodied rwd 997 Carrera. As such it diffentiates itself from the rest of the model line up.

The Carrera 4GTS, whilst it is not so much differentiated from a Carrera 4S with X.51 Powerkit, it can only be a good thing to have a more powerful all wheel drive Carrera in the model line up. What might go against it is timing. At that price (the price is NOT bad but read on) and so close to the launch of the 998, which may possibly have the same power and performance in the 'standard' 998 C4S, it might make the 4GTS a harder buying decision. The GTS has had more time on its side even if the 998 C2S might have the same performance as the 997 GTS (not forgetting of course the wider track differentiator).

The competition is getting stronger. I think with the 998 Porsche shouldn't hold back power upgrades as options. They need to make the car all it can be and have the options for personalisation and aero.

 

[944s2]

You missed out a word in the title YET []

 

[grover]

Is this a missed opportunity for their marketing team

Still time for a convertible GT3RS, a 'black' version turbo, a 4wd gt3, a spyder version model of every type of Porsche after all some 918 buyers might want a boxster or coxster too, or am I just being cynical?

 

[flat6]

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At the end of the day, Porsche can't lose. They designed this car many years ago - X.51, so it will cost them nothing. They've used up a few X.51 kits in the Sport Classic, Speedster and GTS and must have a few left[8D]. That said, if I was buying a new Carrera right now, it'd be the one i'd go for because I was previously considering the Carrera 4S (admittedly I was looking at used) and X.51 versions are rare. (Where I live I need AWD to cope in the winter. My Cayman can't get up the hill to the house).

 

[williaa68]

If Porsche follow their previous release schedule the "4" won't be in the initial release of the 998. This makes the 4GTS a slightly more interesting proposition in my view than the regular GTS as any replacement is probably at least 2 years away....

 

[Peter_Bull]

ORIGINAL: williaa68

If Porsche follow their previous release schedule the "4" won't be in the initial release of the 998. This makes the 4GTS a slightly more interesting proposition in my view than the regular GTS as any replacement is probably at least 2 years away....

Not so with th3 type 964 release.

1989 C4 launched
1990 C2 launched

 

[tscaptain]

ORIGINAL: Peter Bull

Not so with th3 type 964 release.

1989 C4 launched
1990 C2 launched

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[baxster]

I think the only 911 variants I have a problem with are the Sports Classic and Speedsters, if I had bought one of these with my hard earned I would feel seriously gutted when they launched the GTS at some 50 - 60k cheaper.
I wonder what will be happening to all the non GTS 997's?

 

[betternotbigger]

I expect they're being enjoyed by their owners before being cherished by the next. The GTS is only a C2S with the right options and a 20hp upgrade.

Is 385hp somehow disappointing? My C2S has PSE, LSD, Sport Chrono, Sport Seats and plenty of comfort options. And it fits better down narrow lanes. What's not to like?

 

[Lancerlot]

ORIGINAL: betternotbigger
What's not to like?

No PDK! []

 

[betternotbigger]

Which was an option when I bought my 997.2 (but I like to heel and toe)... so what's the difference (apart from the few largely unnoticeable hp)?

 

[okellyt]

ORIGINAL: Lancerlot

ORIGINAL: betternotbigger
What's not to like?

No PDK! []

I am with beetternotbigger - PDK is a marvelous piece of kit and to me a no brainer on the turbo.

I just prefer manual on the normally aspirated (especially short shift), its seems to suit the cars character more. []