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Another newbie - warranty advice on 2006 gen 1

buzzfan

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Hi, another newbie here, trying to buy my 1st Porsche & wondering about warranties after reading about bore score, ims etc.

I'm looking for an early 997 C2 manual in the £ 20/25k range, have short listed several low mileage 2-3 owner examples at dealers - there's quite a choice.

a) Does anyone have any experience of non-OPC warranties on a 10 yr old vehicle?

b) Also any thoughts on likely further depreciation if kept in tiptop condition - would £ 2-3k pa be likely?

thanks in advance

 
My experience with warranties has been with an independent dealer (911 Sport in Lincolnshire) who provided 3 months warranty on 996 C4S and sold me a 3 year warranty
for around £1400. That sounds a lot but given I had 3 RMS's done - and in fairness 911 Sport funded that themselves without the need of claiming on the warranty. They have
been good with me across the board. I bought my latest car 11 weeks ago, a 997 911 turbo. I got three months warranty from the seller who is a dealer but without workshop
- he sources good examples of prestige cars, - Autologix - again in Lincolnshire. Now very pertinent to this conversation - my engine management light came on last night.
With a week of warranty left he has agreed to fund the investigative work to establish the fault and agreed to do this at the garage I have taken it to- 911 Sport. So that is a
good example of honest dealers working to their word with a three month warranty from initial purchase. I have again bought a warranty (this time with WarrantyWise, Quentin
Wilsons effort) it cost me around £1300 - I did not hestitate to buy this at point of purchase as my seller did not have a workshop so regardless it would have to go to another
garage and the experience I had with the 996 shows how quickly a big bill can build up. I always service to schedule and therefore maintain the conditions to make a warranty
relevant. Think of it like this- if you can't afford the big bills that may come with ownership, either buy the warranty or don't buy the car.
 
Sure it will be in the flat part of depreciation curve but I've never owned a porsche that's lost only 2-3 k a year
Double that mostly!!!
 
The depreciation will depend upon its age and depreciation that's occurred already, they get to a price where they either hold their value or even increase
dependent upon markets. My last car lost 25k over 7 years (Carrera 4S) but it won't depreciate much more, infact it may increase slightly. However I just
enjoyed buying a Gen 1 997 turbo with 28k on it for nearly a £100,000 less than new. It won't depreciate rapidly now. Depends on the car. And then there new
cars and premiums......
 
Getting back to warranties, I bought a 997.1 turbo last year with a Porsche warranty till December 2015. The thing is, when I come to renew
the warranty the question is who to go to? Porsche, warranty wise, or warranty direct. Any advise or comments would be welcome. I spoke to
my local OPC about upgrading things like the PCM, and exhaust and got the reply "that would invalidate the guarantee" so that got me thinking
about other warranties who don't seem to be bothered as long as its done professionally. Porsche don't give you anything towards parts that
wear out like clutches, whereas others do. So who do you recommend?
 
Always a tricky one on warranties, but following a recent experience I will try and stay Porsche as long as I can.

The experience? We had to have a new pdk on our 2010 Gen 2 C2S (20k miles), all done under Porsche warranty, no questions or quibbles. Including the day they diagnosed a box change, 4 days turn around.

OPC said boxes are now £6k, plus fitting plus VAT, so probably circa £10k if I'd had to pay? If I had a 3rd party warranty I'd want to know it would pick up bills like that with similar no quibble. Can't comment on 3rd parties paying towards replacing worn clutches etc, but I wouldn't have immediately thought of trying a warranty claim if its normal wear and tear/usage.

For me keeping the car original is a small price to pay for this peace of mind.
 
Lost all drive on a roundabout shortly after leaving a M Way service area, M1/A43, on way to Experience Centre at Silverstone. Tried moving out of and back to 'D', and the buttons - nothing, but moving it fully into Manual gave me some gears. It wasn't 'right' but i knew OPC Silverstone was a couple of miles down the road and got to them. Initially no warnings or anything on dash when it happened, did get a warning on way to OPC, but it came and went so quickly didn't assimilate what it was.

Silverstone did a quick diagnostic and said they thought it was a faulty temperature sender and I needed the 'modified' one fitting - they'd done a few - and that the system had thought the pdk oil was too hot (possibly due to heat soak whilst at services?), we'd only been driving at steady 70 on M Way for a couple of hours, so normal motoring. Said we should be OK to continue, but if it did it again then switching engine off and on again ought to recycle the error and regain the gears, and then to consider Porsche Assistance.

Got it into my local OPC, Leeds, for the sensor change having updated them and got a call to say 'deeper problems in the box' when they'd got stuck into it, and a new pdk was needed. Didn't/couldn't get any further clarification, but OPC's don't open or mend any pdk's, just routine maintenance on them, any probs its a new one from Germany and the old one goes back, so they may not even have any clear idea, just the fault codes and/or diagnostics said 'change'!

New box seems OK, just watching it to ensure no issues with it, or following the fitting. Worrying on a 5 year old low miler, but whilst there are some tales of pdk woes on the internet volumes do not seem high compared to number that will be out there, so hopefully just one of those things.

As yet no 3rd parties offering any servicing of the boxes I'm aware of, so Porsche is the only source if there is an issue, unless you can find /want to use one from a breaker. Maybe someone will come along soon offering such a service particularly as the first pdk cars can only be a couple of years away from no longer qualifying for a Porsche warranty, and of course some will not have that warranty on them anyway.

Not a cheap part to put right if you do have issues, but guess if you drive a performance car which in our case would have been circa £90k new, then some parts won't be cheap, hence reason we'll stay with a Porsche Warranty as long as we can.

Speaking generally and not Porsche specific I guess as cars get more complex it will be harder to find any 3rd parties able to service/mend some bits, and even if they can will it actually be that much cheaper than a replacement from the Dealer or with older cars even cost effective vis a vis value of car?


 
Thanks for the info.

Interesting you suddenly lost drive when previously everything had been fine.

My PC has changed 5 PDK boxes so far at an average cost of around £10K.

Makes a good case for keeping up a Porsche warranty!

Regards,

Clive.
 
If you have any problems it's worth a call to zentrum in Nottingham who have just rebuilt my engine. Not rip off merchants. Very helpful and will talk you through problems. They advertise in porche club magazine. All mechanics ex main dealers. I believe they do gearbox rebuilds. Mike
 

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