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PaulJ

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Does anyone know if an automatic system of rev-matching has been incorporated when changing down on the latest manual gearbox Caymans? If so is it switchable to an old school DIY mode, and is it standard or an option? Another question I'm keen to have answered is the width of the new model at the widest point over the door mirrors. My current car is 1.96m and I'd like to know how much bigger the new one is, as I have a narrow garage entrance.

I read in Porsche Post that Kevan had one on loan recently and I'm jealous, as when my Cayman R was serviced at Nottingham recently the offer of a new Cayman to try for the day was 'unavoidably withdrawn' at the last minute. I was offered an auto C-Class Merc instead, which I declined...

An early Merry Christmas to everyone!

Paul.
 
ORIGINAL: PaulJ Does anyone know if an automatic system of rev-matching has been incorporated when changing down on the latest manual gearbox Caymans? If so is it switchable to an old school DIY mode, and is it standard or an option? Another question I'm keen to have answered is the width of the new model at the widest point over the door mirrors. My current car is 1.96m and I'd like to know how much bigger the new one is, as I have a narrow garage entrance. I read in Porsche Post that Kevan had one on loan recently and I'm jealous, as when my Cayman R was serviced at Nottingham recently the offer of a new Cayman to try for the day was 'unavoidably withdrawn' at the last minute. I was offered an auto C-Class Merc instead, which I declined... An early Merry Christmas to everyone! Paul.
I have driven a manual 991 C4S with this feature, it only does this in Sport+ mode.
 
I am collecting a 981 Cayman S Friday having traded in a Carrera GTS for reasons in the 997 register. Mine is a PDK but I can measure car when I get it home. I think Nick was correct so you would need Sport Chrono - this might also help - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lnIFeELGc2k
 
Paul, I believe that Nick is correct regarding rev-matching with the manual 'box. Sport Chrono required...? I'd have a word with someone at your local PC about this feature and about the over-mirrors dimension (it's quoted as 77.9 inches ~ 1.98m for the 981 Boxster). If you specified electric folding mirrors, I'm sure that there wouldn't be an issue with your garage door width. Pity about the "no-show" for the 981 Cayman. Recently I requested a manual 3.4S as a courtesy car when mine was in for service, so of course I got a 2.7 PDK Boxster..! Better luck next time. Jeff
 
ORIGINAL: ralphmusic I am collecting a 981 Cayman S Friday having traded in a Carrera GTS for reasons in the 997 register.....
Ralph, Hope you enjoy Cayman ownership and welcome to this - rather quieter - part of the forum. Having jumped ship it'll be interesting to hear your impressions of the new drive compared with the GTS. At least you can be satisfied that you're now driving a car with the engine in the "right" place..! Jeff
 
Jeff, Thanks. I am at Silverstone GP circuit on December 8 with Gold Track so I will have a good comparison with my last GTS visit two weeks ago.
 
As stated above Chrono is req'd in order for the auto blip to operate on the manual when in sport mode but if you are in the habit of blipping then it won't have much effect as in doing it the car is doing it anyway so the manual blip becomes like an overlay. Regarding the width, the mirrors are narrower than on the 987 but the body is approx' 100mm wider from the wheel arches to the main body section.
 
ORIGINAL: ralphmusic Jeff, Thanks. I am at Silverstone GP circuit on December 8 with Gold Track so I will have a good comparison with my last GTS visit two weeks ago.
Would love to hear your thoughts on the comparison!.
 
Thanks for the information everyone. It's always good to know the correct option boxes to tick. Just in case...
 
spyderman Would love to know how the car knows you're going to downshift before you've done it... Mine knows when I'm about to smile. (It hears the garage door open). :)
 
Electronics sense: Off throttle -- Declutch -- Downshift Electronics actuate: Throttle blip Electronics act faster than you can think..! Jeff
 
I see what you mean - you have to have selected the gear first and it blips before you can release the clutch. Wonder if you can fool it...?
 
ORIGINAL: Buddy No need to double declutch, it matches perfectly,
I appreciate that double-declutching is completely unnecessary on a modern synchro 'box Kevan, but I'm just curious to know what happens if you do. Jeff
 
Having just traded my 997 GTS Cab for a Cayman S, I was not sure whether I was going to have a better car. Most of the judgement is emotion in the context of particular circumstances relating to use. Neither used daily, increasingly the main use is going to and from and on track days, with some touring. I do like my comforts so never really thought of an Elise or similar. What do I miss? It has to be the engine the engine the engine oh, and the grunt - can I have the engine back please? I drove hood down much of the time in 2011/12 but despite better weather less so in 2013 - so whilst without a cabriolet for the first time in 10 years, I don’t really miss that (yet). I miss the larger cabin, the Cayman is quite cozy with little internal space for bags without compromising rear vision. I found packing for trips in the GTS very much easier with lots of space behind the seats, particularly using the folded down wind deflector which made it difficult from the outside to see what was behind the seats. I am sure my Cayman is quite lardy, all the nice to have extras (which I wanted) have motors and extra wiring. The 9x1 controls and buttons look very nice but I find them very difficult to locate whilst driving, they are too low, largely obscured by the gear lever, and I find it easy to push the wrong one. Also with the mirror controls, I end up folding the mirrors when I just want to slightly change the angle of the mirror glass. Intuitive it ain’t. I need to go through the handbook again as I can’t seem to get the screen to stop showing me the sky above the map’s horizon - why do I want to see sky? Full post code actually works - hooray! Fuel saving - auto stop/start works but I turn it off. Coasting is interesting - with cruise on, it seem to be “modulating” the throttle most of the time thus not creating the circumstances that would activate coasting. When I have been on a motorway with cruise off, the coasting comes on presumably because/when I take my foot off the gas to manage gaps to other traffic. So is it more economical to coast or cruise? New PDK is much faster and coupled with sports exhaust and Sport/Sport +, just wow! Down Wellington Straight, braking into Luffield, auto-blipped down shifts, why do I need to change gear? On track, understeer gone. Rear traction in the damp not so good out of slow corners (the Loop), less torque, more revs, weight bias, tyres? However faster corners (Maggots, Beckets, Chapel) I/it feels more secure, confident, I reach the same end of straight speeds as I did in the GTS. These comments are to a large extent based on my capability as a driver; other GTS’ were faster and better driven than than mine. On the road, I feel more confident in the Cayman, probably down to the fewer inputs/feedback from the steering, far less flex in the body, longer/wider (more stable) platform so I can drive more quickly more safely (conditions allowing m’lud). Noise, GTS tyre roar but you get used to it. Cayman on track, I can hear lot from the engine and gears, hopefully because they are in the cabin with me. Cayman exhaust seems a lot louder on full throttle. Steering on the GTS was alive, perhaps overly so with the compromise of body flex and suspension. In comparison at first the Cayman’s seemed heavy, then “weighted” but never “alive”. Looks - GTS every time. The Cayman in white with silver Carrera S wheels looks rather effite from most angles whereas the white GTS with black centre locks, black hood looked the biz. Also the Cayman was an ex-management car, and came with a puddle not a paddle steering wheel. So the road wheels will soon be gloss black, the puddles paddles, and the dirt retaining chrome (on white?) Porsche and model decals on the rear lid deleted; I appreciate all a matter of taste. The answer, do I have a better car? Actually they are both great cars. You gotta have a 911 once in your life and the 997 GTS was one of the best. The 981/991 are a different and IMHO a markedly better generation. I never really got excited by the 991 models v the 997. There will always be progress and I shall enjoy what I have. When the Cayman reaches its third birthday, it will go, I shall be well into my 70’s and I may just scratch an itch and go back to a nice 993 or (hush) a 2.7 RS rep…. and 356’s are so beautiful.
 
Interesting read. Also interesting in terms of your choice of cars primarily for track use. I'm no driving expert but I can fully appreciate what you say about the engine power of the 98x cars for track. I think my car is more suited to road use vs track as on the track the road opens out to reveal the upper limit of the power & torque (foot often to the floor on the throttle). I prefer to exercise the car on some great driving roads rather than on track. It's a fast as more powerful cars in that scenario (including my driving ability).
 
Interesting comments Ralph but, for what it's worth, I'm completely in accordance with 6 on this. If it's just track grunt you're after, it's inevitable that you'll find the Cayman lacking compared with your previous drive, particularly on a high-speed circuit like Silverstone. Re some of your other comments: Yes, the Cayman's cabin does feel cosy (I like it that way) but at least it has two proper "boots" with lids, unlike the 911 where access to the (so called!) two rear seats has to be via the doors. I've a feeling that the rear boot on the 981 is slightly shallower, or the over-engine bay slightly higher, than on my 987. I'm sure that with appropriate soft luggage there's more than enough stowage space for two people for a week or two without compromising rearward visibilty. I've commented on this before and I agree totally with your assessment of the "button-fest" which is the centre console. Far to many single-function buttons coupled with very unergonomic sighting. Porsche need to look very closely at what everyone else is doing in this respect (even within the VAG), including making better use of the central display module for many of the functions. Thanks again for your comments and keep us posted. Jeff
 

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