Auto Express says the Boxster is !!!!!

[daro911]

18-24th Feb Issue P38 says:-

Buy an entry level Porsche Boxster for £31,450 keep it 3 years and you will still be able to sell it for £21,072. With a retained value after 36 months of 67% of the initial cost, the Boxster is as sound an investment as a new car purchase will ever be.

So it's a bonus that it's also one of the best driver's cars around, with supercar speed and sublime handling. A consistently good performance in our Driver Power customer satisfaction survey - it came top in 2002 - confirms there is no better buy in this class.

[]Who disagrees with that then

 

[gorobbie]

I don't know many people that would buy a base 2.7 Boxster.

By the time you've added what most consider as essential options ie a/c, 17" alloys, partial leather plus a few other bits and bobs, the price is more like £35k. What would be the depreciation be in 3 years then?

 

[daro911]

ORIGINAL: gorobbie

I don't know many people that would buy a base 2.7 Boxster.

By the time you've added what most consider as essential options ie a/c, 17" alloys, partial leather plus a few other bits and bobs, the price is more like £35k. What would be the depreciation be in 3 years then?

I would say a lot less, as how undesirable is a base Boxster 2.7! I am on Boxster number 4 and my previous 3 always had around £4K worth of extras and I always felt I got most of this money back at sale time and ease of selling a car with a nice spec is "priceless" []

 

[GreigM]

Yes, the myth about loosing all the value of the options is just that- a myth, as long as they're sensible(ish) ones, such as wheels, leather,climate wind deflector, stereo...and my personal favourite PSM!!! (just to wind up all you "real drivers don't have PSM" chest-beaters [] )

 

[cFirth]

I had a strange and unusual experience when I went to specify my options at the Nottingham OPC. I was expecting the hard sales pitch and a bit of a battle to keep the options within budget.

However I was given the story that they would make more by selling my car for the second time and maybe a third time so recommended a saleable spec. Apparently a new 2.7 should cost £35k - £36k to include the options listed above by GreigM except PSM.

These options were on my list anyway but when I went on to specify cruise control (£289) and coloured hubcaps (£98) I was almost given a lecture on how I would never get my money back

I did wonder at the time if I was been lead towards taking a cancelled order but subsequent correspondence from Porsche confirmed build slots ect.

BTW. I wasn't going to specify PSM anyway but the negative sales comments from dealers were along the lines of "Unlike the Audi TT the Boxster chassis is so good it doesn't need assistance to keep it on the road"

 

[GreigM]

That's interesting, because a salesman from Edinburgh OPC told me that PSM is the third most sought-after option after wheels and leather. He recommends all new cars spec it.

 

[cFirth]

The comment was probably more to knock the TT that they knew I had tested. PSM certainly wasn't pushed to me as even a "desirable" never mind "essential" However now that I know more about PSM it is one of those things like a parachute, you do not intend to use it but pays for its self the first time you do. I will probably specify it on my next car.

 

[GreigM]

I agree with the parachute metaphor, good one. I saved my bacon once already, so as far as i'm concerned it's already paid for itself.

 

[thboxster]

It's not the first time that I have heard of dealers making suggestions to help the resale value. It was suggested to me that Guards Red was not as popular as other colours and therefore might not be as sought after as other colours on the second hand market.

My view was, I'm spec'ing and buying the car that '"I" want, and not the car that someone else might want in a few years time. So as the picy on the left shows, I got one in Guards Red.

I got a load of other goodies on it as well, lighting, mirror package, rain sensors. That's what I wanted and I hope it will allow the car to hold the value. £500 or £1000 on those bits that you really want kind of don't matter in the scale of the £35,000 price tag

 

[cFirth]

Mine is guards red too the only part of my spec that for me was not negotiable. Apparently guard's red is a good colour for a Boxster but a bad for a 996. I have not seen a Boxster in orient red so have no personal opinion but it was suggested that orient red is the red for the 996 but not for a Boxster.

I reckon the new red and white rear lights are a perfect colour match to guards red.

Taking the used cars at the OPCs, then the various silvers seem to be most popular, counted in tens then there are the odd red, blue and black cars. I have not seen any green or white Boxsters. I think yellow looks great in the publicity photos and was tempted but not sure if I could live with it.

Since value is related to supply and demand then they have to sell 10s of silver cars for every red, blue, or black car. Small demand with even smaller supply may not necessarily be a problem.

Anyone else have an opinion on the "best" colours.

 

[daro911]

ORIGINAL: cFirth

Anyone else have an opinion on the "best" colours.

Chris best colours for resale currently have to be any of the silvers and greys ... Then I guess any of the popular metalics like my Lapis [], Black & Midnight Blue...... The metalic red and metalic green are definitely not popular in the UK be it 996 or Boxster. Solid colours I have been told can cost you £4000 at resale time if its a white one! red / yellow hard to shift hence I have never bought either but I like both and black is always going to go OK ...

Metalic Arena Red was another big loser and I knew a Boxster owner who took quite a hit on his Arena with full savanagh interior when he PX'd it for a 996.

A guy at my gym had an Arctic Silver but with the grey roof and grey interior all looking very shabby 6 months down the road so I guess that combo would take a hit on the used market....

 

[Guest]

Interesting comments re. OPC Nottingham - I got the same story when I bought my 2.7 in 2002 - although I also added Litronics - which they advised against. However when I bought the S, they said PSM was "essential" - which was also reiterated on the Test Drive Plus by the Porsche UK guys. Having said all that - I wish I had had it on the 2.7 as there were a couple of moments off wet r/abouts when luck - not driver skill! - saved me - wheras in the S the PSM intervenes amazingly fast!

Best colour? - I always liked Lapis Blue, but have to admit I'm sold on my new Atlas Grey now!

Regards

 

[thboxster]

It seems a common view point that cars really hold there value. I have just come back from Toyota, after having a disagreement with a salesman about a Yaris (replacing the other car). apparently, he was suggesting on paper, that he would give me 8K for a 3 year old Yaris, when they are only 10k brand new.

As they were selling a MY51 for 7995 on the front I did ask if they where working to achieve an overall loss. He did reconsider his comments at that point.

I think some sales folk will say anything.

 

[Guest]

PSM is awesome and has kept me out of harms' way on more than one occasion.

I opted for the green with 18" Sportclassic 2's......lovely.

 

[Guest]

When I specced my 2.7 it was Feb, just before the registration change, so the OPC was crammed full with new cars - all colours. A boring choice I know, but Arctic Silver cars just stood out from the rest as the prettiest ones. Blondes among the brunettes and redheads if you like!

Black is a nightmare to keep clean - does anyone ever buy a SECOND black one?, Dark blue have similar problems. Grey cars worry me as slightly invisible in certain conditions. Yellow - almost went there, encouraged by the salesman who said he could re-sell them anytime, but common sense (ie the Missus) intervened.

Black hood is the classy option. Blue just looks like you are trying too hard and Grey - Well!

Salesman recommended usual options plus litronics, but not PSM. If options creep up to £37k then you might as well get an "S"

Having said this, there is no accounting for taste, and any colour will sell in time, although non-aircon cars must be hard to shift.

I reckon a £35K new Boxster will be worth £31k after 1 year, £27k after 2 years and £23k after 3 years. (Private Sale) Thereafter depreciation will drop to £3k per year, but repairs of £1k per year should be allowed for. The moral is, if you can take the wait, you might as well get a new one.

Pat

 

[Andrew Killington]

yes I have bought 2nd and 3rd black cars - but there again I find car cleaning therapeutic[][]

 

[dawn lang]

I would absolutely adore a cobalt blue Boxster but am just not willing to pay the extra couple of grand for the colour (one of our chaps mentioned 2k - ouch).

I don't have psm on my car and had a very 'interesting' drive to work this morning in the snow!

Dawn

 

[dawn lang]

ORIGINAL: GreigM

That's interesting, because a salesman from Edinburgh OPC told me that PSM is the third most sought-after option after wheels and leather. He recommends all new cars spec it.

Surely climate would be amongst the top three options???

 

[GreigM]

Sorry dawn, you're correct, he kind of assumed all cars had climate, as he's never sold one without.

 

[kitchens]

Sorry.
I thought I was reading gynaecology weekly when you where talking about PSM isn;t that some female thing ? or am I thinking about some thing else!
Cheers Brian ro1