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Boxster Bubble Bursts

daro911

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Well it had to happen one day and apparently that day is now here [:eek:] On a plus side what a run for our money we have all had before the proverbial hit the fan [:D]


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And this is news???? the article suggests that it has not seen any of the cars in the article first hand. £13k buys 97 or 98 MY high miles boxster in the less favourable colours and probably low spec. No suprise there.
 
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[FONT=arial unicode ms"]Its only money, investments don't make me smile and thay're a bu**er to wax :D[FONT=verdana,geneva"]
 
Interesting question is will this affect the values of lower end 911's - SC's, 3.2's and 964's

If people can buy a modern, 200+ BHP Porsche, less than 8 years old, for the same money as an 80's 911, which way will they go...
 
Too many of them about - supply and demand.

Porsches are set to be just like BMW's and Merc's.

They will all go the way of the 944 and 924 - five grand and under - even the 911's (evidenced by 996 being cheaper than 993 already).

Early cars will hold up on rarity and appeal.

Cayennes may resist for a while because they're different (from other Porsches).

The marque is being devalued - no doubt about it.

Lazza

 
Hi,

I would also say that Cayennes will fall pretty quickly - there is not really enough to differentiate them from X5's, Mercs and Range Rovers (probably the prestige brand leader in the 4x4 market above Porsches)

Pete
 
It will (unfortunately) go the way of BMW, since the business strategy is the same.
They are just a few years behind.
 
ORIGINAL: lazza


Cayennes may resist for a while because they're different (from other Porsches).

The marque is being devalued - no doubt about it.

Lazza

I think you will find that Cayennes could be in a bad way too.

We was in OPC Leeds and talking about getting a new copmany car and the word "discount" came into the conversation if we bought a new one from the stock they had outside.

They was a lot of stock.
 
ORIGINAL: garyandjanet

We was in OPC Leeds and talking about getting a new copmany car and the word "discount" came into the conversation if we bought a new one from the stock they had outside.

They was a lot of stock.

Checkout http://www.autotrader.co.uk/ there are loads of all model Porsches that would appear to have been dealer registered and then discounted below list! [:eek:] Definitely sign of the current times that are rumoured to be here possibly for another decade [:eek:] but lets not even go there [;)]
 
Frankly, I can't understand all this moaning about depreciation and finger pointing at Porsche. There are similar threads on the 996 and 997 forums. Generally we would all prefer a newer car to an older car so there will be a premium for newer/lower miles etc. Porsche is a business and is there to make money, therefore if you part exchange in, they have to make a profit margin.

These early Boxsters have probably depreciated by only £2,000 - £2,500 per annum during their lifetime. That seems pretty good to me.

I'd suggest you need to compare to the depreciation prospect of some Jaguars/Range Rovers/Aston Martins or the cost per mile in depreciation terms of the typical Ferrari. That might cheer you up a bit.
 
£13k for a R reg Boxster with 85k miles and no warranty is still a lot of money - you'd be paying a lot less for a similar vintage SLK and Z3, never mind also that R and S plate XK Jags would be around £12k (what are they new - £60 grand?). Also, £13k buys you any number of nearly new Mini Coopers, BMW 3 Series coupes and other metal so it's not all doom and gloom. You didn't buy your Porsche in order to retire did you?
 
ORIGINAL: pvernham

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or the cost per mile in depreciation terms of the typical Ferrari. That might cheer you up a bit.

intersting point; I was looking at the used prices of 355's and 360's and felt that they had stood up much better than Porsche, probably because they are still very much a niche market
Andrew
 
The whole prestige market is suffering. It's not the advertised, or asking, prices - it's what people are actually getting that really counts.

From what I can tell Porsches are no worse, probably better, than most other makes.

However, it's simple economics and eventually all these cars will find their true value. And, as always, the very best examples will always sell most easily at the best prices, whereas anything a bit 'iffy' will struggle to sell, whatever the price..
 
Makes the finance packages interesting though.

After three or four years the cars may be worth less than the guaranteed value if the trends continue.

Lazza
 
£13k for a R reg Boxster with 85k miles and no warranty is still a lot of money - you'd be paying a lot less for a similar vintage SLK and Z3, never mind also that R and S plate XK Jags would be around £12k (what are they new - £60 grand?). Also, £13k buys you any number of nearly new Mini Coopers, BMW 3 Series coupes and other metal so it's not all doom and gloom. You didn't buy your Porsche in order to retire did you?

Not me! - Didn't buy it to sell either..[:D]
 
Makes the finance packages interesting though.

After three or four years the cars may be worth less than the guaranteed value if the trends continue.

Lazza

Interesting point...

In this case who stands the loss ?

Pete
 
ORIGINAL: burrow01
In this case who stands the loss ?

Depends on the structure of the finance package. Get it right and it will be Porsche finance's problem.

The snag is that you would have to hand the car back or time your trade in very well.
 
ORIGINAL: lazza

Makes the finance packages interesting though.

After three or four years the cars may be worth less than the guaranteed value if the trends continue.

Lazza

Very valid point Lazza, Ford lost millions in the mid ninities after the GFV's where set to high. Its why a few crafty companies set a ' balloon ' payment at the end of the PCP/Lease term which is not a GFV but just an indication of future value [:'(] so if its £3k the wrong way - then tough.
 

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