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Porsche Boxster E review


Porsche Boxster E-Boxster FIRST DRIVE

Test date 03 May 2011

The usual rev counter display makes way for a so-called power meter

What is it?

Some will call it sacrilege, others progress. Whatever, it's hard to downplay the significance of the all-electric Porsche Boxster E.

Officially, the new two-seater is just a prototype, created by a small team of Porsche engineers to support an electric mobility program sponsored by the city of Stuttgart in Germany.

But it's no great secret that beyond its efforts to champion the city where it is based, Porsche's long term goal is to produce a plug-in sports car to rival the likes of the Tesla roadster.

The silver and orange liveried prototype we're in is one of two rear-wheel drive versions of the Boxster E in existence right now. It's described as a packaging mule, painstakingly pieced together at Porsche's Weissach R&D facility to test the zero emission roadster's electric motor, battery system and all its associated wiring and ancillary systems.

So out goes the standard mid-mounted horizontally opposed six-cylinder engine and gearbox. Taking its place low down behind the cabin is a liquid cooled lithium ion battery pack. Consisting of 340 individual cells, it provides energy to an electric motor mounted within the rear axle assembly underneath the Boxster E's rear luggage compartment, which retains the same capacity as the Boxster.

Developed by Porsche parent company Volkswagen and also used in the Golf blue-e-motion, the compact electric motor delivers 121bhp at 12,000rpm. To put that in perspective, the Boxster's 2.9-litre powerplant dishes up 248bhp at 6400rpm.

Porsche claims a range of 106 miles, with a recharging time of eight hours on standard 240 volt mains.

What's it like?

Turn the key "" yes, it's still located on the outer edge of the dashboard - draw the familiar looking gear lever backwards to place the gearbox into drive, apply a modest amount of throttle and the Boxster E glides away with the sort of step off urgency you don't get in the standard Boxster. With 199lb ft of torque "" or just 15lb ft less than its more conventionally powered sibling develops at 4400rpm - available from the off, it scoots away from the lights with real enthusiasm.

It certainly doesn't feel 185kg heavier than the standard Boxster. The step off urgency, gives the prototype a good turn of speed around town "" an environment where it feels right at home. The new Porsche cruises smoothly on city streets, and there's plenty of low speed pick up when required to slot you into desired spaces in the traffic.

What really gets you attention first time out is what Porsche dubs active sound management. In a move aimed at satisfying upcoming regulations slated for the US, it has fitted the Boxster E with two speakers "" one low down at the rear and one within the cabin - that simulate the sound of its classic six-cylinder engine. The volume is linked to throttle load, meaning the more performance you call up, the louder it becomes. A makeshift switch allows you to turn it off, but try it once and you're quickly convinced it should always be left on.

After the initial burst of acceleration subsides, though, the modest power output of the electric motor fails to haul the Boxster E along with the sort of vigor you might expect of a car wearing a Porsche badge as you load the - a fact that is clearly revealed in Porsche's official 0-62mph claim of 9.8sec. The top speed of the prototype we drove as also limited to 93mph "" or 19mph shy of its official figure, in a move aimed at protecting the charge of the battery. In this respect, the performance clearly is a little disappointing.

But remember, this is a packaging mule first and foremost. A four wheel drive version of the Boxster E, which is said to more closely resemble the sort of layout Porsche is considering for a future all-electric sportscar, is said to shave a considerable 4.3sec off this time, with a Boxster S equaling split of just 5.5sec. It would no doubt fulfil anticipations of performance in a more convincing manner.

So does the driving experience come anywhere near that of the standard Boxster? While the electric steering lacks the inherent tactility of the hydraulic system used by more conventionally powered sibling, the Boxster E is still great fun over winding back roads. Despite being labored with that added weight, the chassis still manages to genuinely engage the driver. It also rides remarkably well, thanks to adoption of unique spring and damper rates which provide it with a firm but controlled feel. In overall terms it's already a more competing drive than the Tesla.

Porsche has neatly integrated the read-outs for all the various electric systems into the standard Boxster's instrument binnacle. The usual rev counter display makes way for a so-called power meter, which not only shows what percentage of power under load but also reveals the percentage of recuperation on a trailing throttle. A separate display keeps tabs of the range.

Should I buy one?

You can't buy an Boxster E and likely won't be able to for some time to come, if at all. But it proves that Porsche, with help from parent company Volkswagen, is keeping well abreast of developments in the electric car scene.

It's a uniquely appealing car with loads of promise, even if it lacks the overall excitement of the Boxster. But like all electric cars the issue of range, energy source and production cost need to be sorted before any firm decision about its future can be made.

 
In my view, irrespective of who makes it, the 'electric car' is the biggest con on the planet.

Apart from PV solar-powered go karts, the majority of so called electric vehicles are substantially powered by fossil fuel and will be so for many years to come. To describe this Boxster as 'all electric' is disingenuous and perpetuates the myth that somehow electric vehicles are 'clean'. Electricity is merely the means of transferring and storing the energy. Running any electric car will continue to create significant amounts of pollution. It just shifts the emissions from the urban to the rural environment.

And anyway, electric vehicles aren't really new are they? When I was a kid, dairies ran fleets of electric milk floats to deliver milk around the country and Harrods used to deliver across London in electric vans, so I fail to see how this can be a particularly significant step other than for the marketing teams who need something 'new' to peddle.

Frankly, I'm just not impressed by or interested in an impractical, over-priced, rapidly depreciating, excuse of a car with or without sports car pretensions. 'A uniquely appealing car with loads of promise' - not in my book. I'd actually rather take the train (that's 'electric' too BTW).
 
Spot on Alan.
Unfortunately they need to get their production numbers up for these types of cars to meet EU regulations.
 
Pollution from battery manufacture etc is a large concern of any such vehicle, however, will there be a hybrid Boxster similar in concept to the 918?

Much more practical and not often needing to be plugged in. As for cost, depends on production figures.
 
I think he means quick off the line, only the go pedal to press and no slipping of the clutch but then 9.8secs to 60 could hold up the traffic after the lights.
 
ORIGINAL: BartyB

In my view, irrespective of who makes it, the 'electric car' is the biggest con on the planet.

Apart from PV solar-powered go karts, the majority of so called electric vehicles are substantially powered by fossil fuel and will be so for many years to come. To describe this Boxster as 'all electric' is disingenuous and perpetuates the myth that somehow electric vehicles are 'clean'. Electricity is merely the means of transferring and storing the energy. Running any electric car will continue to create significant amounts of pollution. It just shifts the emissions from the urban to the rural environment.

And anyway, electric vehicles aren't really new are they? When I was a kid, dairies ran fleets of electric milk floats to deliver milk around the country and Harrods used to deliver across London in electric vans, so I fail to see how this can be a particularly significant step other than for the marketing teams who need something 'new' to peddle.

Frankly, I'm just not impressed by or interested in an impractical, over-priced, rapidly depreciating, excuse of a car with or without sports car pretensions. 'A uniquely appealing car with loads of promise' - not in my book. I'd actually rather take the train (that's 'electric' too BTW).


Electric cars will be powered by nuclear fusion within 30 years. near zero emission.
power stations 1000 times more efficient than fossil fuel coal fire power plants , allowing an Electric vehicle to run with at least 6000 times less pollution than the present average petrol engine.

the whole point of the electric car revolution taking place is to begin building an infrastructure such as battery swap fuel stations .( drive in - switch batteries , drive out in under 1 minute) Electric motors last up to 1 million miles, 1 million miles before you need to drop the motor out, there is only one moving part in an electric 'motor' alone , compare that to petrol engine (all that waste energy through friction> heat sound) ! electric cars are far far more efficient .

Battery weight is placed low centre gravity. Nano lithium are now being introduced 10 min charge for the shelby Aero EV
wiki:
"The Ultimate Aero EV uses a twin motor AESP producing an astounding 1,000 hp (746 kW) and 800 lb·ft (1,100 N·m) of torque enabling it to rocket to 60 mph (97 km/h) in a mere 2.5 seconds and reach a top speed of 208 mph (335 km/h). Not only does the Ultimate Aero EV have a range of 150""200 miles on a single charge, but SSC's "Charge on the Run" onboard charging system allows for full battery recharges in as little as 10 minutes"

tesla 300 miles in a charge, and as demand increases the price drops and the batteries get even smaller and lighter.

another example: The all electric version of the aerial atom (x1) is quicker than the petrol version. made by a man in his garage on limited funds. road legal wrightspeed x1 0-60mph in 3 seconds a little quicker than the majority of production vehicles and milk floats.

All the way from high performance to the sitting in traffic jams: Instead of petrol engines running at a stand still, an electric motor uses no energy whilst at a jam!

walk down the high street and breath fresh air. Cancer reduction across the planet.

The list is so long as to why electric cars will dominate the roads in the next 10 or so years. Petrol will always be available , its just that the majority of people will choose electric as it will eventually be a cheaper option.
 
Fusion power may be operating in 30 years but may not, they've been working on it since the 1950's, hopefully with the new ITER reactor it will be able to equalise the amount of power it generates with what it uses. But that won't cover the manufacturing.

Battery swap stations require standardisation of the battery packs in all electric cars, that has never happened in other cars due to differing requirements, so it will be with the electric vehicle. Forget about the 1 minute battery change, lots won't be able to find the battery!

I know people with gas conversions on their cars who can't find fueling stations, again no infrastructure.

I agree with the sat in traffic jam scenario apart from the fact that air con or heating will be operating along with other ancilliaries and draining the power reserves. But control systems can be put in place to shut down non-essential systems in preference to motive power so hopefully the whole line of traffic won't be stopped by someone running out of electricity.

Outright performance is one thing, practicality is also required so 300 miles in a Tesla, what if air con and heating are required? 150 miles?

The 918 allows use of a commonly available fuel by using the motor to generate and so energise it own batteries and a similar system could be used for a diesel or even turbine motor and could be available in much less than 30 years, less manufacturing pollution than most other current hybrids claiming range due to more batteries.

Ferdinand Porsche built the first hybrid a very long time ago without loads of batteries and the 918 is a new take on his original idea.

Cost effective? I just replaced a battery in my Cayman, £168 with club discount, swapping batteries there would be a charge ( financial ) to cover the lifetime usage of the batteries as well as a fueling cost so don't expect it to ever become cheap, governments will use travel as a way of generating tax income however it is done.

Clean? Not unless fusion works as they hope and until then electric cars are just moving the pollution out of sight plus the addition of the battery manufacturing.

Then there are dangers to such large reactors whether it be terrorists crashing planes or whatever.

For now cleaner fuels are improving things, Porsche have a real, usable system with the 918.

If you want to see how far we have come in terms of cleaning up the planet just look at photos of towns taken through the last 100 years. Smokeless fuels, improved efficiency engines, boilers etc have had a very positive impact progress will continue and Porsche are usually ahead of the competition. The Boxster E is just demonstrator of a simplified system, 918 derived technology would prove popular in the market.
 
ORIGINAL: Buddy

Fusion power may be operating in 30 years but may not, they've been working on it since the 1950's, hopefully with the new ITER reactor it will be able to equalise the amount of power it generates with what it uses. But that won't cover the manufacturing.

Battery swap stations require standardisation of the battery packs in all electric cars, that has never happened in other cars due to differing requirements, so it will be with the electric vehicle. Forget about the 1 minute battery change, lots won't be able to find the battery!

I know people with gas conversions on their cars who can't find fueling stations, again no infrastructure.

I agree with the sat in traffic jam scenario apart from the fact that air con or heating will be operating along with other ancilliaries and draining the power reserves. But control systems can be put in place to shut down non-essential systems in preference to motive power so hopefully the whole line of traffic won't be stopped by someone running out of electricity.

Outright performance is one thing, practicality is also required so 300 miles in a Tesla, what if air con and heating are required? 150 miles?

The 918 allows use of a commonly available fuel by using the motor to generate and so energise it own batteries and a similar system could be used for a diesel or even turbine motor and could be available in much less than 30 years, less manufacturing pollution than most other current hybrids claiming range due to more batteries.

Ferdinand Porsche built the first hybrid a very long time ago without loads of batteries and the 918 is a new take on his original idea.

Cost effective? I just replaced a battery in my Cayman, £168 with club discount, swapping batteries there would be a charge ( financial ) to cover the lifetime usage of the batteries as well as a fueling cost so don't expect it to ever become cheap, governments will use travel as a way of generating tax income however it is done.

Clean? Not unless fusion works as they hope and until then electric cars are just moving the pollution out of sight plus the addition of the battery manufacturing.

Then there are dangers to such large reactors whether it be terrorists crashing planes or whatever.

For now cleaner fuels are improving things, Porsche have a real, usable system with the 918.

If you want to see how far we have come in terms of cleaning up the planet just look at photos of towns taken through the last 100 years. Smokeless fuels, improved efficiency engines, boilers etc have had a very positive impact progress will continue and Porsche are usually ahead of the competition. The Boxster E is just demonstrator of a simplified system, 918 derived technology would prove popular in the market.



fusion reactors are not like fission, they can be switched far more easily, there is no danger of another Chernobyl or terrorist threat . fusion is clean and safe , fission is dirty and dangerous. It will take an estimated 30 years due to lack of funding, it is possible, we have already made a fusion fire ( star) on earth at 200 million degrees c. its just a matter of time before an engine is created to cycle this power and make usable electricity. And by that time, electric cars will be everywhere and they can simply plug in. or use the energy to charge the battery swap stations ( standardisation ?, like that hasn't been done before)

it is mainly a battle against the attitudes people have toward progress, it is quite mind numbing , If this attitude was around just as the first petrol engines were being introduced, one would have said ridiculous, what if we run out of petrol? what if they explode? what if someone throws a lighted match in my petrol tank? what if the wheels come off at 80mph? Do you realise we would need to set up thousands of petrol stations around the globe and channel masses of oil across the seas to make this work? this idea is absolutely insane people like you should be locked up! Petrol vehicles will never take off, horse and carriage is the only way to go. (and this is before anyone knew of the harmfulness of the fumes and limited supply in awkward locations in the far east , requiring unspeakable tactics to gain pipe lines instead of paying extortionate prices). electric cars are needed more now than ever , even if it means building solar deserts systems or solar satellite/microwave systems. Anything to transition away from oil.

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ORIGINAL: greenbox

Petrol will always be available , its just that the majority of people will choose electric as it will eventually be a cheaper option.

So we'll be waiting a very long time then.....[;)]
 

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