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chrism964

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The front discs on my C4 are shot and so need to change discs and pads.

Eurocarparts has a 25% off car parts offer at the moment and so I was wondering if anyone had any reservations about the Sebro or Pagid discs or the Textar or Pagid (standard compound) pads they sell.

Porsche discs are £200 - £300 (just for the discs) depending on where you look and I could get the whole lot with sensors and shims for less than that with free delivery!

Thank you in advance.

I should add I don't track the car but equally think that brakes (like tyres and dampers/springs) are not areas to choose an option just because it is cheap. They are, after all, what will keep me safe.



 
I have used euro disc's and pads on my wifes 964 in the past and the quality is good, but if you feel that you are compromised putting a cheaper product on go for the porsche one[8|]
 
I bought OEM discs from design911.com for my Boxster and they came in Pagid boxes - look just like the originals. And I do track my car.
 
Sebro discs and textar pads are the same quality as original.

BTW keep away from the Pagid pads you're looking at. My experience is that they are awful. They squeal a lot and overheat when used hard, leading to judder. The track pads Pagid do are very good (and very expensive) but these Pagid road pads are not good at all.
 
Thanks for all the replies.

Fordy. I suppose I should have asked the question in a different way. Instead of 'are not areas to choose an option just because it is cheap.' I should have said 'are not areas to choose an option just because it is the least expensive.' There is obviously difference between cheap and value for money. "Buy cheap buy twice" or "cheap and nasty" spring to mind. Anyway, thank you for your response I am interpreting it as they are value for money [8|].
 

ORIGINAL: Steve Brookes
BTW keep away from the Pagid pads you're looking at. My experience is that they are awful. They squeal a lot and overheat when used hard, leading to judder. The track pads Pagid do are very good (and very expensive) but these Pagid road pads are not good at all.
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Interesting. Which ones would you recommend for something that would improve on the OEM Textar pads but at the same time would not squeal when used on OEM Pagid discs?
 
Importantly, as you say Chris, the car isn't tracked. The usual Textar's are more than adequate. Sebro have been a supplier to Porsche for discs in the past, and again are just fine. My rear discs last year were £98 for both (Sebro) - not sure if VAT was included though. Factor in pad sensors, anti squeal shims etc.

Regular brake fluid change is critical me thinks. In a very short time it can, and does, absorb moisture significantly reducing the boiling point, increasing sponginess etc. You probably know anyway, but glycol-based brake fluid is the one - DOT4 (rather than silicon DOT5). However, DOT5.1 is glycol-based too with a higher boiling point than DOT4. All useful stuff I picked up from tarmac rallying...

HTH
 

ORIGINAL: spyderman


ORIGINAL: Steve Brookes
BTW keep away from the Pagid pads you're looking at. My experience is that they are awful. They squeal a lot and overheat when used hard, leading to judder. The track pads Pagid do are very good (and very expensive) but these Pagid road pads are not good at all.
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Interesting. Which ones would you recommend for something that would improve on the OEM Textar pads but at the same time would not squeal when used on OEM Pagid discs?
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Hi Chris,

The Pagid road pads I tried (the ones that are sold as OEM pads by many suppliers) were used on Sebro discs. They squealed on the road and caused big deposits on the discs leading to judder when used on track. I've not used Pagid discs so have not direct experience of them. I choose Sebro because I've always found them to be great quality. Also, when I took a sebro disc out of its box and put it next to a Porsche disc taken out of its box, I could not see any difference between the two. You can probably guess what this tells us! Also, when doing standard brake changes, my indy always uses Sebro and Textar.

Regarding improving on Textar, the 'Pagid RS range' takes some beating but comes at a high price and often a lot of squealing. So these tend to be track only pads. A good compromise for fast road and track are the 'Pagid Sports' (code RS4-2-1). I found these performed very well and the squealing was minimal. However, they cost about 50% more than Textars and improved performance is marginal in my experience.

I should also add that I've extensively used Hawk blues for track. They don't squeal. Are about 40% cheaper than Pagid RS29 yellow. And have the best bite I've ever experienced in a brake pad. However, I've given up on them because the dust is extremely corrosive and was starting to eat my car!
 
Pagid Blue's supposed to be good also - http://www.brakes-pads-discs.co.uk/pagid/products/rs42-blue-carbon-based.php

I know some tarmac guys who use these and apparently they are supposed be excellent from cold, have a stable temp range and don't screw up the discs or create too much dust. Available for 964's for about £200 a set.
 
Over the years of Porsche 964 ownership I have used OEM and Porsche discs and in the end I find the Porsche discs last longer in use and rust less when left, all with Textar pads as these are the same as Porsche pads but minus the shims as threse can be reused.

I have used drilled and no drilled , Sebra and Zimmerman discs supplied over the years from either Design 911 and or Europarts. But in the end I recently replaced all 4 with Porsche discs and i've allways used Textar pads even for tracking as they dont squeak on the road, as I have found others do and ive never had brake fad.

Yes Porsche discs are the highest price but you pay for what you get in this world and if you can buy them from a dealer with 10% disocunt using the PCGB card even better, or I get mine from Porschepart when they put Porsche discs deals up on ebay, and they have some rears there currently.

 
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