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Buying 1980 924 Turbo - what should I look for????

Alan Woods

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I just saw a low mileage 924 Turbo for sale (1980) and decided on a whim to go take a look at it - is there anything in partcular I should be looking for? I think GTPP or 911&PW did a buyers guide on this model recently but typically I cant find the issue now I need it! Any advice welcome. Thanks in advance.
 
When buying ANY 924 make sure that a previuos owner has not done anythig creative to the electrics. I DO MEAN ANYTHING!

Turbos. make sure that the car you sre buying is a TURBO 2. The first Turbo is far less reliable.

Get the seller (if he is the owner) to take you for a drive. Watch what he does when you stop, if he turns the engine off imeadiatly (rather than letting it run for 15 seconds or more) you could well be looking at a turbocharger rebuild in the near future.

Good Luck.
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Geoff Ives. Register Director. Classic & Heritage Group Secretary.
 
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Turbos. make sure that the car you sre buying is a TURBO 2. The first Turbo is far less reliable.
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Geoff Ives. Register Director. Classic & Heritage Group Secretary.

Geoff,

I'm a little puzzled by your comment about the mk1 version being less reliable. In what areas, they are basically the same car except for turbo, compression ratio and ignition system ?

(multiple owner of mk1 and carrera GT i.e mk2 versions)
 
When you've bought the car you obviously need a matching pair of bright red 'Porsche 924 Turbo Register' sweat shirts.

[;)]

Offers to pukka911@btopenworld.com

Mel
 
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ORIGINAL: geoff ives

Turbos. make sure that the car you sre buying is a TURBO 2. The first Turbo is far less reliable.
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Geoff Ives. Register Director. Classic & Heritage Group Secretary.

Geoff,

I'm a little puzzled by your comment about the mk1 version being less reliable. In what areas, they are basically the same car except for turbo, compression ratio and ignition system ?

(multiple owner of mk1 and carrera GT i.e mk2 versions)

The Series 2 also had a better engine cooling system which helped the turbo and engine longevity
 
Get the seller (if he is the owner) to take you for a drive. Watch what he does when you stop, if he turns the engine off imeadiatly (rather than letting it run for 15 seconds or more) you could well be looking at a turbocharger rebuild in the near future.

Now THAT is good advice and worth repeating.
Anyone new to turbos might have heard they need to run for a few seconds after stopping (to allow the oil to cool the turbo bearings), but would they think to check the previous owner knows that? Nice one Geoff!
 
ORIGINAL: Phil_Davies

????? The cooling system is the same on both models !

Please explain Paul

Sorry, I meant turbo cooling; the turbo layout design on the S2 was thought out much better and keeps the turbo cooler than the S1 model.

If you have it, see GT Purely Porsche August 2003 p.91 'Seize The Day'
 
Moving away from the turbo / crankcase breathing discussion......

One thing to check is the quality of the gearchange, particularly 2nd gear synchromesh. They do tend to become baulky and will go on for years in that condition, but it's best to avoid a gearbox rebuild.
 
Had a look at the car this morning, not too bad really, everything seemed to work apart from the rear wiper, didnt test drive it but no unusual noises from engine, started first time (had new fuel pump apparantly) but upon inspecting the documentation the car had been 'round the clock "maybe it's had a new speedo..." offered the dealer, still a sound car with lots of history but I guess I (and my mechanic buddy to be more precise) are shying away from taking such a responsibilty on! I'm now thinking maybe a 944S2 or even a 968 would be a lower risk proposition, despite the greater investment. Thanks everyone for their advice at such short notice! ps/ 924's still look great (I had a 924 Lux new in '84).
 
I'm a little puzzled by your comment about the mk1 version being less reliable. In what areas, they are basically the same car except for turbo, compression ratio and ignition system ?

That IS the point.
 
On the basis that Alan has probably already decided not to go down the 924 turbo route I hesitate to respond, but here goes [:)]

Narrowing the choice of vehicle down based on the reliability of solely one component of the car may not be the best decision process to follow. I identified three main differences between S1 and S2 924Ts in my earlier post.

When considering reliability, compression ratio is unlikely to be a significant factor in overall reliability, and while the DITC system is theoretically superior to the TCI-H electronic ignition system fitted to the S1 cars I doubt that there is any real difference in reliability here. (Even though I have suffered from DITC pickup sender failure, but not TCI-H failure and the ignition timing on S1 cars can be changed)

This leaves us with only the turbocharger itself as a difference which could cause changes in reliability. Rather than discuss the difference in the compressor housing between mk1/2 and the many breather modifications Porsche introduced throughout the life of the model which can be applied to either model, isn't it better to look at the question another way ?

Are you are better with a good series 1 car, possibly with a recently rebuilt turbo, against any series 2 ? Both of the cars are going to be over 20 years old so maintenance, quality of oil used and oil change frequency are going to be the biggest determinants of reliability of the turbocharger.

Coming back to the comment about 924 speedos...... I have had at least two fail at around the 80,000 mile mark. It's one of the small plastic gears that fails. I would not be surprised to find any car that has covered that sort of mileage to have a replacment speedo.
 

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