Buying a ClubSport - how much please.

[leesweeney]

I am in the early stage of thinking about adding a Clubsport to my stable. Every time I see a 3.2, and especially a Clubsport I can't help think that this is the quintessential Porsche. Of course, I have to persuade the better half and the bank manager first.

Half the pleasure for me is the research which I will do thoroughly and will probably look to purchase early next year.

Can someone advise what I should pay? - it would have to be in exceptional condition with relatively low mileage and I know this means buying at the top end of the market but as I intend to keep it long term that wouldn't really bother me.

Also, how often do these cars come up for sale? Is there a reasonable flow to choose from?

Many thanks

 

[oliver]

You need to speak to Alan Cordery at the 911 Club Sport Register.

I know from my own past experience that these very rarely come up for sale on the open market and usually sell quietly, with the Register putting interested buyers in touch with prospective sellers.

They are fantastic cars, and often under-estimated by people who don't know them. They were more highly modified than many people realise, built in very small numbers and make a superb road or track car without too many compromises. Less extreme than a 964RS, but very close in feel and spirit to the 2.7RS.

Prices are around c.£30k, but the best low mileage examples are closer to £40-45k (and I know that several have sold in this bracket).

Good luck

 

[leesweeney]

That's really helpful Oliver, thanks.

 

[jason]

Buying a ClubSport - how much please?

If its a 993RS one in blood orange then about 200k.....
http://www.porscheclubgbforum.com/tm.asp?m=393770&mpage=1&key=&#393770

 

[nathan 1981 930 G50]

ORIGINAL: oliver
They were more highly modified than many people realise,

Now you have my attention... Care to spill the beans or point me to a good thread on the subject?

TIA

 

[carreracat]

3.2 clubsport mods:

deletion of rear seats
lighter heating system
lighter sound system
lighter wiring harness
ligher bumper mountings
lighter space saver wheel
no coating on fuel tank
modified front bumper
engine blueprinted
lighter hallow intake valve stems
modified DME raising peak RPM to 6800+
modified engine mounts
modified gearbox mounts
modified air filter
LSD fitted
short shifter
different 4 + 5 gear ratios
bilstein dampers
6x16 front and 7x16 rear wheels
205/55 and 255/50 tires

(list stolen with great thanks and appreciaton from Tony Cortlett's excellent Porsche 911 3.2 Carrera book from www.velocebook.com)

 

[totsnap]

and both autofarm and strasse have a CS around £30k at the mo.....

 

[nathan 1981 930 G50]

Thanks Mark. I have that book, haven't read it yet!

 

[oliver]

You need to refer to the Porsche Technik Bulletin of the time which had several pages of modifications relating to the CS.

Tony's excellent book only summarised the notable differences.

 

[nathan 1981 930 G50]

Even my '84MY carrera has Bilsteins all round as it is a sport model.

I've seen CS engine or tranny mounts listed on Pelican Parts, not sure which they were.

Of course, all these differences are not worth the price difference in reality. Please note I'm not saying the CS is not worth the price they are! I would love to own one but would be worried about it getting damaged.

 

[chfs911]

From DDK

I actually ordered one back in October 1987 from Maltin Porsche in Henley, Oxfordshire, but I didn't take delivery. The invoice price was £34,389.98

I have the original spec sheet which was just a photo-copied sheet from Porsche GB.


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911 Carrera Coupe in 'Club Sport Version' (M637)

Base Model: 911 Carrera Coupe

Exterior colours: Grand Prix White / red decals / red wheel centres

Interiors: all standard interiors, (leather front and rear seats) there is a lot of stuff tipexed out here, so the available interior is a bit unclear.

Order codes: M637 - club sport version

+ M541 - radio preparation (2 speakers & antenna amp)

+ P42 - Group number comprising:

Shortened gear lever (M243)
Sports shock absorbers (M474)
Front and rear spoilers (M473)
Rear storage box in place of seats (M419)
6 and 7J x 16 forged alloy wheels (M395)

All other M-options can be ordered with the exception of the following:


M058 M438 M139 M454 M197 M491 M286 M498 (STD) M288 M513 M326 M525 M340 M526 M341 M533 M383 M559 M387 M586 M425 M650 M430 M975 M437

Body: deletion of:

1. rear seats
2. back & sidewall trim
3. sound insulation(except for engine comp and roof section)
4. PVC undercoating
5. Additional blower with cover and control knob
6. Automatic heating control
7. lockable front hood
8. sunvisor, passenger side
9. lid of storage compartment in doors
10. activated carbon container
11. coat hook
12. Carrera lettering

Deviating from standard version

1. Manual window levers
2. front spoiler w/out opening for fog lights
3. rear section covered with carpeting
4. sidewalls, front, covering with carpet
5. new combination seats (base cushion and sports seat backrest) w/out electrical height adj, in cloth or cloth/leatherette only
6. manual heating levers behind handbrake lever on right
7. separate chassis number as of 14th digit (number starting with 5001)

Chassis

Deviating from std Carrera Sport

1. w/out lockable wheel nuts
2. Alu spare wheel
3. engine mount, same as 911 Carrera Cab.

Engine:

Deviating from std version

1. intake valves (hollow valves)
2. Electronic control unit for 6840 RPM mac
3. Crankcae and cylinder heads with 'SP' marking

Electrical system

deletion of

1. fog lights, front
2. engine and luggage comp lights
3. radio prep (except cables)

Deviating fron standard version:

1. rev counter with modified 'red line' section
2. simpilfied cable harness
3. starter cable with reduced diameter


Homologation

1. registered as 2 seater
2. unladen weight 1,160 Kg
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Nick Moss