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smtk

smtk

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So considering a few 968 sports atm.

I've read the Octane 968 buying guide and I understand that cambelt changes are an important to the health of the car.
I also spoke to my favourate Porsche workshop (tuthills) about them they said to be weary of the high mile cars because sometimes the items (sprockets) the cambelts connect to also get worn and start damaging things.

TBH i dont mind high mile cars as long as the high mile jobs have been done and i'm not going to be footing large bills in the first months of ownership.

Does anyone else have buying tips (particularly regarding the engine)?




 
Do an internet search on 968 Uk. There is a comprehensive buyers guide in the forum.

When you find one you like get a PPI done. Peter Morgan is reputable in 968 circles.

Good luck with the search![:D]

Cheers

Oily
 
unfortunately 968uk you need to buy the stickers to gain access and they require a chassis number to buy the stickers but I'm porscheless atm so its a catch 22.

I've used peter before for my 993turbo nice to know he's just as good on 968s
 
I thought that 968UK allowed an 'Im looking for a 968' option when signing up.
The sprockets are on the camshafts, part of the variocam, and are not mentioned anywhere in the service schedule AIUI.
They wear, and the chain stretches, which can cause failure.
A proper inspection of them will discover how worn they are. Its fairly trivial, theres a good document here:
http://www.cannell.co.uk/968_Workshop_Manuals/Procedure%20for%20inspection%20of%20Porsche%20968%20Camshafts.pdf

He also has a buyers guide form one of the mags on there http://www.cannell.co.uk/Road_tests/911PW0704_968BG.pdf
Prices are probably a bit out, but the bits to look for should be ok.

Dave
 
unfortunately 968uk you need to buy the stickers to gain access and they require a chassis number to buy the stickers but I'm porscheless atm so its a catch 22.
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Can't see how they'd not want new members on the 968UK forum, although I personally don't like the idea of having to pay up front it's where people seem to go. Why the 968 owners don't just use the free forums like this one I don't know....[&o]

Contact Stu, Mr968 on this forum, and I'm sure he'll sort you out with access. He is the previous 968 Register Secretary and runs 968uk. [:)]
 
Ask some very pertinant questions,
Namely, have the cams been replaced.?
If never, Then ask when the cam CHAIN + tensioner was replaced.[It should be around the 70K miles mark].
If never then budget for some new cams.
How long ago were the cam BELTS replaced.? They have a life of around 3 years / 50Kmiles whichever is sooner.
The CHAIN + BELTS are 2 separate items. DONT get them confused.
Was the water pump replaced at the time of the belt change.?
Has the belt tensioner be checked / replaced.?
Has the car had a replacement clutch./ Did the flywheel get checked at the same time.?
Have the brake callipers been serviced / plate lift "corrosion" been removed.?
Accident damage, has there ever been any.?
Other than that its mostly straight forward. Usual used car checks.
Hope you get a good one..[;)][:D][:D]
 
Ooo thankyou I didn't know belts and chains were 2 items

I have another question how can i tell the differance between a 986 and a 986 sport. Is there a chassis number difference? I ask because I've seen a few sports advertised as clubsports just wanted to know i not going to be fooled with a stuck on badge [:eek:]

ORIGINAL: Big Dave

Ask some very pertinant questions,
Namely, have the cams been replaced.?
If never, Then ask when the cam CHAIN + tensioner was replaced.[It should be around the 70K miles mark].
If never then budget for some new cams.
How long ago were the cam BELTS replaced.? They have a life of around 3 years / 50Kmiles whichever is sooner.
The CHAIN + BELTS are 2 separate items. DONT get them confused.
Was the water pump replaced at the time of the belt change.?
Has the belt tensioner be checked / replaced.?
Has the car had a replacement clutch./ Did the flywheel get checked at the same time.?
Have the brake callipers been serviced / plate lift "corrosion" been removed.?
Accident damage, has there ever been any.?
Other than that its mostly straight forward. Usual used car checks.
Hope you get a good one..[;)][:D][:D]
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Im guessing you mean a 968. NOT a 986 thats a boxster.....
Never realy delved into chassis numbers, just to say that a sport is usually sat lower to the ground than a "coupe".
The Sports + Club Sports were made on the same line + will have similar chassis numbers.
The Sport was only a UK option car.
There is always the option of using the TIPEC forum.
http://forums.tipec.net/
If you dont fancy buying a set of stickers or giving your "inside leg measurement" to join 968UK.[8|][:D]
 
Sports and Club Sports have the same vin number series (VIN WP0ZZZ96Z_S815...)
normal coupés are (VIN WP0ZZZ96Z_S800...)

This is from uk968:

WPO= world manufacturers code,
ZZZ= Europe, ROW,
96= 1st & 2nd digit of type,
Z= Test digit, Europe, ROW,
then either,
N= 1992
P= 1993
R= 1994
S= 1995,
S= Manufacturer Location (Stuttgart),
8= 3rd digit of type,
then either,
0= Coupe
1= CS, Sport
3= Cabriolet
Followed by 4 serial numbers.
Ranging from
0061-5000 for Coupes
5061-9000 for Cs`s, Sports
0061-4000 for Cabs.
Engine numbers are similar, we should all start with,
4= Cylinders
2= naturally aspirated, then date either,
N= 92
P= 93
R= 94
S= 95
00, then,
XXX, (serial number)
There were 249 Sports in 1994 and 57 for 1995 = 306
The total 968`s imported into the UK was 1043.

How to tell between Sports and Club Sports definitively Im not sure, as you could option a CS to be effectively a Sport I think.

Dave

 
ORIGINAL: smtk

Ooo thankyou I didn't know belts and chains were 2 items

I have another question how can i tell the differance between a 986 and a 986 sport. Is there a chassis number difference? I ask because I've seen a few sports advertised as clubsports just wanted to know i not going to be fooled with a stuck on badge [:eek:]

ORIGINAL: Big Dave

Ask some very pertinant questions,
Namely, have the cams been replaced.?
If never, Then ask when the cam CHAIN + tensioner was replaced.[It should be around the 70K miles mark].
If never then budget for some new cams.
How long ago were the cam BELTS replaced.? They have a life of around 3 years / 50Kmiles whichever is sooner.
The CHAIN + BELTS are 2 separate items. DONT get them confused.
Was the water pump replaced at the time of the belt change.?
Has the belt tensioner be checked / replaced.?
Has the car had a replacement clutch./ Did the flywheel get checked at the same time.?
Have the brake callipers been serviced / plate lift "corrosion" been removed.?
Accident damage, has there ever been any.?
Other than that its mostly straight forward. Usual used car checks.
Hope you get a good one..[;)][:D][:D]
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Easiest way is the V5. HPI would reveal the same. Models are different on the V5, its either a 968 Sport or a 968 Club Sport.
 

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Easiest way is the V5. HPI would reveal the same. Models are different on the V5, its either a 968 Sport or a 968 Club Sport.
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I wouldn't rely on the V5 - they are often wrong, a dealer once told me of a 928 that was classified as a diesel on the V5 and the DVLA refused to change it.

De-coding the chassis number is the only way to be 100% certain.
 
ORIGINAL: 964RS_DAB


I wouldn't rely on the V5 - they are often wrong, a dealer once told me of a 928 that was classified as a diesel on the V5 and the DVLA refused to change it.

De-coding the chassis number is the only way to be 100% certain.
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Which doesn't differentiate between a Sport and a CS as they are the same run or am I missing something obvious?

More chance of the V5 being the best source, although as pointed out above that could be wrong (especially if its diesel [;)] )
 
AFAICT The Sport is a uk only CS special, with some extra options as standard over the CS.
I presume the CS shells were not fitted with as much stick on sound deadening etc, so were given a different VIN to the coupes

Dave
 
Dave S, of the 1043 968s imported into UK, do you happen to know how many of these were Coupes?
 
Nope. However Peter Morgans book has this table in it:

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Another way of telling the difference between a Sport and a Club Sport; the Sport is the much faster car, of course.[:D]
 
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