Carnauba Wax

[Guest]

Hi,
I currently use Autoglym resin polish.
I wanted a better shine, and undertand that Waxes give a deeper and durable protection to paint.

Has anyone tried Carnauba Wax?, I see that some products contain this like Autoglym and Meguires, but you can also buy pure Carnauba wax.

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=72201&item=7988475826&rd=1&ssPageName=WDVW

Which is the best to use?
thanks
Amo

 

[Guest]

Zymol gives a great finish and so it should at the price. The more expensive waxes in the Zymol range have more carnuba content.

A blend like Zymol will contain ingredients that make it easier to apply but I am tempted to try the pure carnuba wax you have seen. If I do, I will let you know how it goes.

Sideways

 

[Guest]

This looks good too:

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=72201&item=7985473995&rd=1

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Amo

 

[steh]

i think that will find autoglym does not have curnuba in it, its a polish and not a wax. it will also wear away your paint in time.
i use ps21 which is a very good wax and cheapish (it has curnuba in)
i am going to buy some swissol and give that a go.
if you do use autoglym polish make sure that you use the auto glym extra protrction after as this pritects it, i think thats what its called, has a gold lable.

steve
ps, with most wax's you dont get the white chalk stuff on the rubber as you do with most polish.

 

[Guest]

The autoglym extra protection and ultra shine are not polishes, thats what there website says anyway[8|]

Amo

 

[Guest]

Looks like Turtle wax have the best products??

http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/product_test/55103/car_polishes_and_waxes.html

Amo

 

[Guest]

A straight polish will microcopically reduce the thickness of paint over time. Correctly used however, mild formulations like those available to us civilians shouldn't do any harm, especially if applied by hand. Less effort on corners and edges (where the paint film is thinner) is a sensible idea.

The compounds the trade use (e.g. Farecla) are a different matter - experience and extreme caution are required, especially if using a polishing machine. A pro should check for adequate paint film thickness first with a guage before deciding to cut it back.

So that I can spend more time driving the car and less time cleaning it, I use a resin-based polish for durability and UV protection. If I have time I treat it to a top coat of a carnuba wax product for extra shine and the pleasing water beading effect. Natural wax is softer than synthetic resin and doesn't last nearly as long.

Much of the battle is getting the paint clean and protected without marring the finish. All grit and dust need to be removed with plenty of water and products applied and set with clean applicators and cloths.

I am sure some concours nuts out there will give you a good regime to adopt.

 

[Elliot Davies]

I was under the impression that if you bought 100% carnauba that you would be as well to wax your car with a brick, its the hardest wax known to man and has to be diluted to be useable ?
maybe im wrong................

 

[steh]

thats rifgr, the extra protection and ultra shine are not polishes, but your first post you say you use AG polish.
steve

 

[Chris_911]

I've recently started using P21S with, at least to my mind, great results.

I simply cannoy justify the price of entry for Zymol, Swissol, etc.

 

[geoff Ives]

In a past life I used to make up wax polishes for a special use and used Carnuba wax. as part of the recipe. There is no chance that you could polish a car with raw carnuba.
On a positive note. Try the old fashioned 'Yellow Simonize' it containe Carnuba Wax and costs about £6 a tin. Sometimes the old ways are best.

 

[steh]

ive been useing it for a couple af years now with good results, and my car in a light colour. i have found that it goes on easier if you use your fingers to apply, i think the heat from your body makes it softer, you can see were you have coverd more as with the applicator it seems that you put some on and remove some at the same time.
i had my car at wolton last week and must have had about half a dozen people ask what i use to polish it.
have you also used the clenser cream prior to the wax, recommend you do.

 

[Elliot Davies]

ORIGINAL: geoff ives

There is no chance that you could polish a car with raw carnuba.

Geoff,
I was told the above by raceglaze when i spoke to them when asking the % carnauba in their wax, they asked me if i would buy pure 100% carnauba if they sold it, i said probably, this is when i was told it would be unuseable as it is absolutely solid.

 

[geoff Ives]

It would be a great medium for a sculptor!![]

 

[Guest]

I was a valeter for two years back in the late 80's. All car company work, shows, showrooms, etc etc. Only ever used Autoglym as it was the best stuff back then and have stuck with what I know since, been happy enough with the results.

Last weekend finally treated my car using first Meguiars clay, then the Zymol cleaner, then Zymol Destiny glaze applied with bare hands. Took about 10 hours to do properly but absolutely stunning results. Genuinely chucked all my Autoglym stuff away after it. One of the most amazing things was the miniscule amount of product I used to do the whole car. I used very litle clay and cleaner and almost no Zymol, and I was being pretty generous.

Makes the high initial cost very cheap in the long run considering you only have to Zymol maybe three times a year, washing is a lot easier and there are no chalky residues on plastics etc - even waxed my smile rubbers and bumper trims, brilliant, wouldn't use anything else now for final finish. Currently working up to Zymolling our RV [8D]

Also used some other Meguiars stuff for the first time last weekend; their water magnet towel, the leather cleaner and then conditioner, the plastic trim cleaner and quick detailer and the quik wax when at the show. All absolutely brilliant []

 

[911_turbo]

I use Autoglym. Results are great; not as good as Zymol but given the less time and money spent, I think its a fair compromise. The only thing that I don't like is the white resisdue that gets left behind on the black platic / rubber. Is there a wax that doesn't leave any white residue but without spending the time and money needed for Zymol?

 

[Mark_Bennett]

Yes, Zymol or Swissol! []

 

[Guest]

I have been using the zymol that comes in a bottle. It's turquoise in colour, smells gorgeous and I bought it from Halfords. It was about £11 which is more than most polishes but I have been extremely pleased with it. Cheers

Kris

 

[911_turbo]

ORIGINAL: Kristian
I have been using the zymol that comes in a bottle.

I saw that in Halfords the other day and was wondering what it was like? Sounds like you're pleased but does it leave any white residue behind on your black platic / rubber trim?

 

[Mark_Bennett]

The Zymol in a bottle is not the same as the Zymol in a pot being referred to here...

It is good though - and I have seen "blind" tests where it came out as the best-rated shine.
It is a little abrasive (and therefore a polish - not a wax), where the other Zymol is not, and can be useful for the final "polish" before going to the full wax product for protection.