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My car has got to go in for a few bits and pieces to be sorted out under warranty. My local OPC provide courtesy cars but don't insure them either for warranty work or servicing so I will have to pay to have it transferred onto my policy. Is this normal for Porsche garages? They also only have the choice of a merc C class, a BMW 3 series or a Boxster, all of which a rear drive and none of which are great on rural roads with 6" deep puddles! If the local VW garage can provide a choice of Toe-rags fully insured FOC why can't the local OPC provide at least a V6 cayenne FOC?? Seems they have spent several million on upgrading the showroom so that all OPC worldwide look the same, but seem to have missed out on the basics of customer service... end of rant!
 
Don't get me started on rants!

They have given me a C Class Merc - 2.4 petrol. One of the dullest cars I have driven. Porsche Assistance said they provide 'premium' cars; Mercedes, Jags or BMW. They have paid for the insurance on mine. Hope yours isn't in too long.

Philip
 
Will be forwarding my insurance bill to porsche UK as a matter of principle. I really don't think that Porsche have taken on board that they are no longer selling sports cars and their core business (if you look at sales) is now 4x4 (with a sports car division attached), Most Cayenne owners expect the same level of service as you would expect with any premium 'daily driver' (as the americans like to call them). They are now competing with Range Rover, BMW, Audi, MB etc NOT Ferrari etc. I guess if you own a few cars then it would be fine, but goodness knows how they will cope with soccer mums and cayenne V6's ... "Hello mrs X I know you have come in with your 2 kids and their 2 friends and your buggy and football gear and shopping, have a 2 boxster to take them home in whilst your Cayenne is serviced, oh and by the way have you transferred the insurance across, and can I have the cover note?"
 
cor, do you feel better for that[;)]

have to agree that Porsche will have to think more about the cars that they have available for loan now they have cayenne owners to keep happy.
dosn't your standard insurance cover you to drive anyother vehical with the owners permission? that was good anough for my OPC[:-]

then i have to admit that my OPC always comes and collects my car and returns it to me,and i rarely use the car they leave me (a golf,usually without any petrol in it)
 
Please see the thread on 996 forum. (why do we pay so much for servicing)

This is just another reason why the OPC have to charge £90 ph to cover those that want a hire car for the day, how many of you would ask for a car if it was costed to you at x hundred a day for the pleasure ?

Please dont get me wrong I understand where your coming from, and the standard of customer service is crap, but can you imagine how many boxsters, 911's, and cayenne's we would have to pay for if we all had a nice new Porsche car to drive around in whilst ours were being serviced ?

Like I say, they charge us £90 ph to service and have the use of an old C class, if we all had a new 911 it would be nearer £190 ph

Give me an old fiesta, and charge me £25 ph and keep your coffee in a bone china Porsche mug and croissant thanks !!!

Regards
 
My point is that if Audi, BMW, Mercedes and indeed WV can offer courtesy cars ( and still charge less per hour than Porsche ) why can't Porsche? Possibly because people have not required them in the past - but they didn't sell a 4x4 in the past. I purchased a 4x4 because I need a 4x4 and yes I do use its capabilities especially during the winter. My Cayenne will be off the road for nearly a week with warranty work and there was no option of offering me another Cayenne - I just hope the Boxster I will be given doesn't get stuck!!

What make me annoyed is at the same time as not offering FOC courtesy cars, my dealer is spending well over a million on re-vamping his show-room so that it looks exactly the same as every other Porsche show-room - which is of zero benefit to me.... that is where your high hourly rates come from, not a few thousand pounds on courtesy cars. At the moment much of the turnover and profitability of Porsche is coming from the Cayenne, Porsche therefore need to respond to what will be a very different customer base to that of their previous vehicles if the Cayenne is to be sucessfull in the long run. In many respects I can understand why they are as they are at the moment - I currently have an Audi A4 cabriolet as a weekend car and if I am without that for a few days it doesn't really matter that much, so the current system would not put me off getting a 911 cab as its replacement next year, but my Cayenne S is a workhorse and I use it for work, and need to be kept mobile, thus unless things change when its lease is up it won't be swapped for a KN TT as planned.
 
have you spoken to the dealer princible of your OPC? and explained that you need (and why) a large 4x4 (hense buying a cayenne)and that as your car is in because of warrenty work needing doing you are going to be really stuck (quite littrally)for work.
maybe he could lend you a demonstrator.suggest a turbo as your thinking of upgrading to it in the future so it would be a great chance to compare.[8D]

just a thought and it might be worth a try.
 
Thanks helen, will chat to the dealer principle if I ever get a breakdown. This time round I only spoke to service and basically got a "this is what is available end of story"- so for this warranty work I ended up taking the time off as holiday, but at other times of the yr I would not have that flexibility.
 
service department told me their hands were tied over the labour charges they HAD to charge me for fitting the Pre sale extra bits to my Cayenne.

i wrote a letter and the Principle of the OPC phoned to tell me i should have made a fuss and spoken to him at the time and he could have sorted it out for me[:mad:]
why should we have to kick up a fuss in order to get a fair deal[:mad:][:mad:]



sorry im back off my soapbox now and calmed down[&o]
 
I think you're all mad and sad with the possible exception of tispkj.

What you,re all forgetting is the fact that the cars they offer you are COURTESY cars, not courtesy insurance or couretesy fuel etc its not a legal requirement just an expectation.

You guys have absolutely no idea whatsoever about the costs of running a dealership these days. The £1m spend you're referring to is probably nearer to £3m and is money the owner has no choice in whether he spends it or not. Spend or else relinquish the Franchise. Then theres all the rent, tooling, diagnostic equipement, training courses and audits and Euro legislation and Health and safety excecs ect...

If the workshop has 15 to 20 jobs in on any one day how can they be expected to run close to this amount of high calibre courtesy cars just so that you can look the part when you turn up at work or wherever.

Get real, its customer expectations like this that drive up the cost of servicing and the public are their own worst enemies.

Wake up and smell the coffee.
 
Lee

I was reading this thread, and thinking ' what a load of whingers !'.

But, I see that you have beaten me to it, and put it better, as well.

Good on you !
 
ORIGINAL: norfolkporsche

Don't get me started on rants!

They have given me a C Class Merc - 2.4 petrol. One of the dullest cars I have driven. Porsche Assistance said they provide 'premium' cars; Mercedes, Jags or BMW. They have paid for the insurance on mine. Hope yours isn't in too long.

Philip

if i am getting a loan car for free from my dealer then as long as its new,clean,and works then im not complaining, the worse the loan car the more i apprechiate my own motor[:D]
though i do sometime think that the dealers miss a great opertunity to let us play with something a little bigger/better than we already own it might make us place an order to upgrade what we currently own.
 
though i do sometime think that the dealers miss a great opertunity to let us play with something a little bigger/better than we already own it might make us place an order to upgrade what we currently own.

Helen

You have a point. But, on the assumption that the people using the OPC have fairly new/expensive cars, then something bigger/better would tend to mean Cayenne turbo, 996 TT (GT3 ?), or Boxster S which would be a bit expensive to have lying around just for customers to use.

As you may gather, I don't get a replacement when I take mine in (independents don't do that), and I use the tube a lot anyway, so I admit to not quite understanding the whole point.
 
yes thats a good point John (i didn't think that through did i[&o])


as for getting the tube/bus/taxi not an option when you live out in the sticks. all the OPCs and specialists seem to be in the cities. right pain for us country bumpkins.

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Reading does full hand (well Jet Hose)wash then chami dry and full interior hoover and clean ..
When you collect the drive the car to the front and walk you too it and confirm you ok with eveything they have done and the car presentation

Re booking in .. I normally find Reading is usually no more than a week wait for the service slot .. I have called on a Tuesday and had a slot for the nect day before

The loan car is always 2 to 3 weeks .. thuis is when I call our Sales guy and see what he can do.. I have borrowed all sorts of demonstrators .. The benefit of an (good) OPC relationship IMO

 
I've used a couple of OPC's in the past. Presently using OPC Sutton Coldfield for the Cayenne, this is not the OPC that sold me the vehicle. Never a problem booking the car in, phone late one week for a date early the next. If a loan car is required there is always a wait, this can be upto 2 weeks, I never bother. The car always comes back looking immaculate. Even when my old 964 went into an OPC for anything, no matter what, it always got a buff.

Long and short is, if you're not getting the service you expect, take it somewhere else, not always convienient I know.

 
[&:]OPC should clean your car as part of the service. I would complain via the feed back form left in your car.

Cayenne S
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