Cayman GTS pre announced, real?
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Cayman GTS Due?
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Hi Chris, One report has 50bhp more which sounded more interesting but less likely. Factory tour next year?
Yes Ralph, lots of chatter on P-9 about this (as usual). As Chris says, we're unlikely to see more than a 10-20hp power hike; maybe slightly stripped-out a la Cayman R. A more focused car from the perspective of performance and handling, with a higher price tag to suit no doubt, the Porsche marketing mafia adhering to the "less is more" maxim. Hopes for a Cayman CS, reviving the Club Sport label, along the lines of the 968CS are, I fear, unfounded. In a candid statement, Andreas Preuninger (Mr GT3) has stated that the development work has been done for this version, so presumably it's only awaiting Board and marketing approval. Perhaps we'll see something around Frankfurt 2014. Jeff
Jeff, I don't think we will see anything as extreme as the R or GT3 yet awhile . My view is this GTS is rather half hearted, let's face it part from the small power hike (I bet it's all at the top end revs and no more torque) and new front and rear body treatment there is nothing unique about the spec. Chris
Agreed Chris. Having read the P-9 post in more detail, it sounds as though the GTS Cayman and Boxster will just be special "S" versions with a slight power hike (~15hp) and a number of options included: 20" wheels, PASM, PSE, leather, sport design steering wheel and custom front and rear PU treatment. An April 2014 release date seems to be on the cards. Not the Preuninger car we were hoping for, so maybe my hopes for a Club Sport version aren't unfounded after all. Jeff
A similarly specced base Cayman S is about £53.7k Chris, so £55k is about right right for us here. Perhaps they'll throw in auto-aircon too which would make the GTS package good value. I was hoping for a (manual) 981 Cayman S courtesy car when mine went in for its 4-year service, so of course I ended up with a 2.7 Boxster with PDK.! But it did have 20" wheels. Wasn't impressed with the 2.7 lump (not enough grunt compared with the 3.4S), nor with the PDK 'box which is an excellent semi-automatic with the paddle shifts but I just prefer the extra involment of the manual 'box. Maybe you and I are in the minority these days, relegated the the land of the ancient manual cog-swappers. The ride was very good despite the fitment of 20" wheels, although I suspect that it would have been better on knobbly surfaces if PASM had been fitted. The handling was excellent and the electrically-assisted steering very good - linear, free from kick-back but lacking slightly the progressive load-up and feedback of the hydraulic system of my 987. Give it a few years of development and it will be the equal of the best hydraulic systems. I'm not convinced totally by the revamped interior - too many buttons, many unergonomically postioned - but it does look much more modern and I liked the new information display in front of the driver. Pity they've deleted the handy lidded door pockets though. And don't get me started on the hideous and badly-positioned electric handbrake..! Fortunately, with the PDK 'box I didn't need to use it but I know that I'd find it a real nuisance with the manual 'box. Why bury it down there where it's so inaccessible? Although I had two very pleasant days driving the Boxster with the top down in the sunshine, I couldn't warm to the car. Too much wind noise which drowned out the sound of the engine/intake/exhaust unless I got the engine spinning above 5,000rpm. Personally, the Cayman cockpit is somehow a nicer a place to be. It convinced me that the Cayman's the right choice for me and I was very pleased to be back in my 987, so much so that I'm not rushing into arranging a 981 Cayman test drive at the moment unless the opportunity arises to have one for a few days. Jeff
I'd be interested to see a comprehensive list of the mods made by Porsche on the cayman R. For example, who knows that the Cayman R exhaust manifold is a larger diameter system than the S ? Or that the EC is different ?? I think Porsche fiddle a lot with their published specs --- often placing cars where they want them to sit in the current pecking order --- rather than where they are. I also think that run-out models are often testing technology to come in a later model version ... It would be interesting to know [
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Considering vehicle development is a continuous process Chris, I wouldn't be surprised if the engine mods for the R were carried over in part to the 981 range. Even year-on-rear, updates and changes to the spec are incorporated in the build by manufacturers without them publicising the fact. Jeff
In these days when any manufacturer or even other companies can change the state of tune of cars simply with a remap of the ECU an extra 15bhp often more can be and usually is readily available in the factory, physical limiting factors such as manifolds and intake plenums can be changed again easily in the factory and we have seen the Autofarm 3.8 Cayman. Even turbo kits are available. So whatever power you want if factory warranty isn't a consideration depends on your finances. But as Chris says, Porsche marketing is often around the pecking order of the different ranges and often the drive demonstrates more real world usability than the factory figures would seem to offer.
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