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Cayman S - Gen II vs Gen 1

goodwinm

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Hi

Started looking for a two/three year old Cayman S, so right on the model change to Gen II. What are the big pluses (if any) in going for a Gen II apart from being a younger car?

Thanks
 
pdk (if you want it!) more bhp[(if you want it!) dfi engines(if you want it) more mpg(.......) good luck hunting[:)]
 
As Dylian says, The PDK available on Gen2 much better than Tiptronic available on Gen 1 Advantages of the DFI engine: About 25 BHP more with better fuel consumption Some minor design changes externally front & rear, OPC's usually have some Gen 1's & Gen 2's in the approved used selection so you can compare. At present the only thing I'd change my Gen 1 for would be a Gen 2 with PDK and the extras I have on mine.
 
And another big benefit of dfi is the emmissions - puts the cars into lower tax bracket. Cayman R with 330 Bhp is 221 gms = £260 per year Cayman S with 320 Bhp is 230gms - £460 per year (Manual) Cayman S PDK is 221 Gms - hence £260 per year. oh the decisions
 
Many thanks for the responses - am I correct in thinking that the Gen 1 also had the same RMS problems as the early 997's (which was designed out in the Gen II Cayman) ? Thanks
 
Yes, the Gen II engine reputedly reduced the number of components by 40% and more importantly designed out anything that may be considered to have a less than ideal life. In fact the Turbo is now using a Gen 2 engine where previously it used the Mezger block. American Intermark racing suggests that the Gen II engines are proving to be very strong --- and so far there have been no reports that I am aware of, of Direct Fuel Injection coking issues. The success of this new engine is critical to 991 residuals which are set to run over a 14 year planned model life span .. Gen2 997, Cayman and Boxsters were merely the test benches [;)] As an aside, for the R the Manual was first 228g/km with the PDK 218g/km --- so a manual was £460 whilst the PDK was £260 per year road tax. Has this changed ?
 
Mike, I concur with the previous comments. Also, the Gen2 engine was redesigned to eliminate the intermediate shaft and hence the (well-documented) IMS bearing failures. Hope that helps - and good luck with the search. It's a great car in Gen1 and Gen2 form..!! Jeff
 
Agree with all of the above, but would add one extra thing ... ride. The Gen 1 cars (perhaps the early ones being worst) have a very brittle crashy ride. Not so bad at speed, but can a bit teeth jarring at slower speeds around pot-holed roads. It is perhaps the one aspect of my car which bugs me most. I was very aware when I drove the Gen 2 Cayman that they had somehow found a bit more low speed suspension compliance, which made the car more pleasant at normal speeds. I recall this being commented on in road tests of the time, so it wasn't just me who noticed it. That said, Gen 1 or Gen 2, it's still the best car Porsche presently make. [;)]
 
Following John's comments I can confirm that the ride is much better than the Gen I. My GenII has 19ins and Pirelli P Zeros and the ride is actually much better than my previous Gen II Boxster on 18ins and Michelins. Now mine has a few miles on the clock it feels like more than 320 bhp. The factory reckon the engines put out 0 to +5% on the rated figure and it feels like a lot more at the top end. There are so many improvements on the Gen II, it would be a no-brainer to me to go for it over the Gen I. Also good value as you can get an S these days for mid 30s.
 
ORIGINAL: ChrisW Yes, the Gen II engine reputedly reduced the number of components by 40% and more importantly designed out anything that may be considered to have a less than ideal life. In fact the Turbo is now using a Gen 2 engine where previously it used the Mezger block. American Intermark racing suggests that the Gen II engines are proving to be very strong --- and so far there have been no reports that I am aware of, of Direct Fuel Injection coking issues. The success of this new engine is critical to 991 residuals which are set to run over a 14 year planned model life span .. Gen2 997, Cayman and Boxsters were merely the test benches [;)] As an aside, for the R the Manual was first 228g/km with the PDK 218g/km --- so a manual was £460 whilst the PDK was £260 per year road tax. Has this changed ?
I like the fact that the US have found no major faults with the DFI engines, particularly the DFI coking issue or should I say lack-of as this afflicts many new engine designs, such problems undoubtedly not covered under warranty.
 
May or may not be an issue bit the gen 1 cars have no audio out and this would have to be retrofitted at approx £400-500 (dension) if you want to plug in an audio device
 

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