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Centre Of Gravity trip - 23/04/2018

markSTI

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Hi All,

Just though I'd share mine and Chris (tweedie) thoughts on our day spent with the team down at Centre of Gravity.

First of all Chris and Pete are magicians, the best in the business. We could have chatted to them all day; it truly was an educational interactive experience from start to finish. We arrived at 8.30am and were greeted by the team, had a brew and a quick chat in their waiting area (Porsche nirvana). They kindly took Wendy and Pat to the local town for coffee etc as we were needed for a good few hours with Chris and Pete.

Chris and Pete started by asking what we were looking for from the cars, we both said fast B road setupJ . So we handed the keys over, I had Pete and Chris, Chris. They have a test route where they get a feel for what the car is or not doing. The first test is the roundabout. Jesus Christ, who knew a car could do that. Thirty five in to the roundabout and then round and round, keep pushing, forty, forty five and then the front started to push wide and me smiling like a kid. Then we went on and tested straight ahead steering test, camber tests, back road driving. Pete was telling me that you should be able to steer the car with you thumb and forefingers and shouldn't be constantly making corrections. So, back to the garage and Pete said well Mark, it’s not bad but we can do much better. Great stuff!

Next up was a complete forensic chassis inspection. So, floor panels off, and then a forensic look over the chassis. Now out on the course it became apparent that I had a squeak from the front. It was quickly identified as the bump stops were too big for the lowering springs when I had them fitted. Something the garage should have changed when I had them done but didn’t. Anyway, this was quickly fixed, no more squeaking. The rest of the chassis was in superb condition and all the bushes were greased up. Pete said that lack of use of the cars is the worst thing you can do. All the rubbers dry up etc. In fact, he said 95% of the cars they see with issues are ultra-low mileage cars; get out and drive is their moto :). One thing they did pick up is that my left hand front alloy has a buckle in the rim. This must have been done on the Blow Away the Cob Webs drive as I hit a massive pot hole that I couldn’t do anything about as a car was coming the other way. Luckily it has not deformed the tyre and that is why I didn’t have any vibration etc. Couldn’t see it when I cleaned the car as it’s very slight. Anyway, it happens and nobody is to blame but the council.

Next the cars were setup for fast B road driving with various black magic jiggery pokery going on. Pete and Chris explained everything that they were doing at every stage. So after a good few hours we were taken on to the test route again with Pete and Chris at the wheel to do the initial test. They didn’t say anything; they just wanted our opinion when we took over half way through.

The transformation is amazing, what these cars can do when setup by experts is beyond anything we expected. We thought our cars handled very well, how wrong we were. The car feels completely different, planted, no fuss, jiggling or nervousness. The handling is truly astonishing and I mean in a completely different league. Its hard to convey to people just how different the car feels both on B roads and motorways, totally planted. The confidence the setup gives you is amazing, it will literally go around corners at insane speeds, no drama and then slung shot out the other end; cheers Chris and Pete, the car is now a B road weapon. Chris (tweedie) shares the exact same option about his Cayman R. We just smiled and talked about it for hours after, we still are.

So, if you think your Porker handles well, think again, there is a B road monster waiting to break out, just see Centre Of Gravity. The best £350 I’ve ever spent on the car. Forget about engine mods that cost the earth, just get the chassis setup by experts. Happy days!

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Mark & Wendy Arctic Silver 987 Boxster S Carmine Red Renaultsport Twingo 133 Cup (1 of only 50 in the UK)

 
Just a few add-ons to what Mark has said in the above post.

As soon as Mark mentioned Centre Gravity to me, thought I would Google the company and see what they actually do and also check for feedback.

What I found was that it wasn’t just a basic Geo, but far far more than that and Chris and his team were up there with the best.

So, with favourable reviews decided to book a visit, along with Mark, to Centre Gravity, Atherstone, Warwickshire.

This is basically what you get from Chris and Pete

1. Test drive of car in arrival set up, identify any suspect dampers etc. 2. Comprehensive inspection of tyres and all suspension components. 3. Comprehensive discussion and explanations of different set up options available to produce different handling characteristics.

4. Ride height setting and correction for cars with adjustable coilovers 5. Adjustments made as required - provided all components in good condition etc. 6. Test drive with new set up. 7. Further adjustments and test drives if required until customer happy.

However, they go the extra mile and they enjoy what they do and you will find how learned, inspirational and delightful they are as car fanatics, especially Porsches.

A morning, afternoon or day in their company is one of the genuine treats of Porsche ownership. The test drive with them is something to experience!!

I was initially a wee bit sceptical about what a full Centre Gravity Geo experience could do for my car, but now I am a firm believer after experiencing the results!

 
Mark & Wendy,

What an awesome write up. Thank you so much for sharing that. It's definitely on my list of things to do for next year.

Simon

 
Cheers guys,

I can't over emphasis how it will change your cars handling and make it even faster. Most people don't realise that the cars are setup from the factory as a compromise. Its impossible for Porsche to spend time on each car and they don't know how it will be driven. Even if you take it to a Porsche dealer they will only do it within Porsche spec; again which is a compromised setup.

Can't wait for next weeks run to give it a good blast.

Mark & Wendy Arctic Silver 987 Boxster S Carmine Red Renaultsport Twingo 133 Cup (1 of only 50 in the UK)

 
Thanks to all for this write up.

Very good reading and a leson common sense.

Thanks folk.

 
I agree completely with the write up. A few years ago, I had to replace the suspension on my 944, so took advice on who to use to set up the geo. Went to see Chris and asked for a fast road setup. By the time I'd finished, he'd turned my car from something that handled well into "I didn't know my car could do that". He explained what the parameters (rake, toe, caster, camber) mean, how they influence each other and went further to explain how to get the most from the car i.e. how to feel what the car is doing, how to position the car etc.

They're certainly not cheap, but boy do they know what they're doing.

Cheers,

Bryan

 
Mark and Wendy,

After having read your review of Center Gravity again I felt I couldn't wait until next year to pay a visit. I'm off on a road trip up to North Wales and the Highlands in a couple of weeks so got in touch with them to see if I could book myself in. Luckily, they've had a cancellation next week so they're kindly fitting me in. I look forward to seeing what they can do to the car. I'm sure I'll not be disappointed.

Thanks once again for the review. Having read yours and others' thoughts I know I'll be in good hands. I'll report back after I get back home.

Simon

 
DrSimon said:
Mark and Wendy,

After having read your review of Center Gravity again I felt I couldn't wait until next year to pay a visit. I'm off on a road trip up to North Wales and the Highlands in a couple of weeks so got in touch with them to see if I could book myself in. Luckily, they've had a cancellation next week so they're kindly fitting me in. I look forward to seeing what they can do to the car. I'm sure I'll not be disappointed.

Thanks once again for the review. Having read yours and others' thoughts I know I'll be in good hands. I'll report back after I get back home.

Simon

Great stuff, handling Nirvana awaits :)

Mark & Wendy Arctic Silver 987 Boxster S Carmine Red Renaultsport Twingo 133 Cup (1 of only 50 in the UK)

 

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